X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([217.160.230.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1570354 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:36:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=217.160.230.40; envelope-from=bob@hassel-usa.com Received: from [68.35.40.148] (helo=HP) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1GkVEj21mJ-00044k; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:36:16 -0500 From: "Bob Hassel" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:36:11 -0700 Message-ID: <008301c70917$399bad30$0501a8c0@HP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C708DC.8D3F1F20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AccI+4qwPuI2hzemS7WEd9/H+S4tcQAG48WQ In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: perfora.net abuse@perfora.net login:6c1306999f8718cd13cd7ef60258631b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C708DC.8D3F1F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How does the flying weight compare on the 20B with a lyco 360 for example? Thanks, Bob _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:18 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions Dwayne, I'm putting a N/A 20B in a Lancair ES, so I'll attempt to answer your questions. My engine has a mild street port, so I'm expecting 275-300hp. Al G. had his N/A 20B dyno'd at 275hp, if memory serves me correctly. So, that should be a conservative number. Advantages of a turbo. more hp at all altitudes. Quieter exhaust, in fact you will likely not need a muffler if you use a turbo. This offsets some of the additional weight penalty that comes with a turbo. Disadvantages of a turbo. more complexity (tubo, intercooler, additional plumbing), more likely to detonate, higher fuel burn, to name a few. Also, you will be a bit of a trail blazer when it comes to picking which turbo to use. The only other turbo 20B that I'm aware is Tom Parkes in AZ. My feeling on the turbo issue to go with a peripheral-port instead. PP is simpler, lighter, easier to fabricate a manifold, etc. No, Renesis parts won't work. One of the 20B's side housings in unique to the 20B. This part is only available for the 20B. Good luck, Mark S. _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Parkinson, Dwayne Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:32 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Newby 20B questions Greetings all, First time posting here so I've got a couple of newby questions. 1) Does anyone know what HP to expect out of a 20B? 2) Can someone explain the advantages / disadvantages to adding turbo to a 20B? 3) Can a 3 rotor engine be built using Renesis components? Feel free to answer any and all and thanks very much for your time! Dwayne ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C708DC.8D3F1F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How = does the flying weight compare on the 20B with a lyco 360 for = example?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

 

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, November = 15, 2006 2:18 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Newby 20B questions

 

Dwayne,

=

I’m putting a N/A 20B in a = Lancair ES, so I’ll attempt to answer your questions.  My engine has = a mild street port, so I’m expecting 275-300hp.  Al G. had his N/A = 20B dyno’d at 275hp, if memory serves me correctly.  So, that = should be a conservative number. 

 

Advantages of a turbo… more = hp at all altitudes.  Quieter exhaust, in fact you will likely not need a muffler if you use a turbo.  This offsets some of the additional = weight penalty that comes with a turbo.

 

Disadvantages of a turbo… = more complexity (tubo, intercooler, additional plumbing), more likely to = detonate, higher fuel burn, to name a few.  Also, you will be a bit of a = trail blazer when it comes to picking which turbo to use.  The only other = turbo 20B that I’m aware is Tom Parkes in AZ.  =   

 

My feeling on the turbo issue to go = with a peripheral-port instead.  PP is simpler, lighter, easier to = fabricate a manifold, etc.

 

No, Renesis parts won’t = work.  One of the 20B’s side housings in unique to the 20B.  This = part is only available for the 20B.  

 

Good = luck,

Mark = S.

 

 

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Parkinson, Dwayne
Sent: Wednesday, November = 15, 2006 1:32 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Newby 20B questions

 

Greetings = all,

 

First time posting here so = I’ve got a couple of newby questions.

 

1)       = Does anyone know what HP to expect out of a = 20B?

2)       = Can someone explain the advantages / disadvantages to adding = turbo to a 20B?

3)       = Can a 3 rotor engine be built using Renesis = components?

 

Feel free to answer any and all and = thanks very much for your time!

 

Dwayne

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