Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #33387
From: Barry Gardner <barrygardner@gmail.com>
Subject: prop speed
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:29:51 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Guys,
 
I've been pondering the hoverhawk.com prop speed calculator (which in turn is from the pponk.com aviation site).
 
While I think it's okay for hovercraft (hoverhawk's goal), I'm wondering if it doesn't contain an error for our purposes.
 
The hoverhawk calculator calculates the tip velocity of user-input prop diameters, adjusted for temperature and rpm. They recommend tip velocities of .88 to .92 mach, which really cranks up the RPMs if you look at it.
 
However, isn't the tip velocity the sum of both the rotational tip speed (i.e., the number they calculate) PLUS the forward vector? Don't you need both to figure out how fast the tip is going?
 
You know that the forward velocity component is not in there because the forward speed is not a user-input variable in the equation.
 
So while the hoverhawk calculator would be perfectly applicable to a relatively slow-moving hovercraft, wouldn't it substantially understate the mach speed of an airplane's propellor carving a forward-moving helix in the air at the rate of 150 to 200 mph? After all, that forward vector itself could add 20-25% to the mach number if my theory is correct.
 
That would mean that the rpm they calculate would be too high for an aircraft (except for the first five seconds of takeoff) and the prop length recommended would be longer than an aircraft could use because the longer tip could go supersonic when the forward velocity is added in.
 
Anyone want to tackle this or straighten me out?
 
Thanks.
 
Barry Gardner
Wheaton, IL
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