Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #3334
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: DIE the short Answer
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:26:02 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

> Charlie,
> <... Or have I completely missed the point & the goal is actually to tune for air
> temperature? ...>
> Actually, if I'm not badly mistaken, that's exactly what we're tuning for.  I
> haven't done any of the studying that Ed has,  .... But a lot of the talk here turns on
> "resonance" and "wave pulses" and what not.  Resonance is sound.  The pulses
> we're discussing are sound.  Sound travels at the speed of sound. 
 
.   SNIP
 
.  If we design for
> relatively mild temperatures, say 60F, we can cruise comfortably at 8k' - 10k'
> during the summer.  Just climb until the intake charge matches the design intake
> temperature and cruise there.  In winter, we can turbocharge, adjusting the
> wastegate to achieve the desired intake temps.  We might have to cruise at 15k'
> in winter, adjusting boost to achieve the intake temps we need for resonance.
>  SNIP
 
.  Runner length is not the only variable.  Perhaps
> there's some advantage to looking at them all
>
> Or perhaps this whole thing is just a remarkably extended brain fart... Jim S.
>
Hey, hey, Jim. Watch who's work you are calling an "remarkably extended brain fart.."{:>)
 
Right, except with the EDDIE, resonance does not enter the picture, if this definition of resonance is anywhere close:  Resonance [n]  a vibration of large amplitude produced by a relatively small vibration near the same frequency of vibration as the natural frequency of the resonating system.  Resonance is a factor in most of the "tuning" theories such as the "Organ Pipe" and Helmholtz Resonance theoreis, but not in the EDDIE.

However, the speed of sound is a factor as you indicate, which is dependent on the ..Lets see if I got the lesson right ... dependent on the TEMPERATURE of the air in the intake manifold --Yep! think I've got that relationship down now.
 
Changes in manifold air  temperature do perturbate  the EDDIE RPM point as you said.  However, it turns out there is another factor (in addition to RPM)  that is much more dominate (don't ask - won't reveal, confirm or deny until Shady Bend {:>)) in determining EDDIE rpm than temperature.  Don't misunderstand, temp does play a non-minor role, for example a 50F drop in temp would equate to roughly 2.5" (port-port) decrease in length needed in your intake,  IF you were going to hold the EDDIE rpm at its design point. The reason, of course, is that since the speed of sound drops with the decrease in temperature, to maintain the same timing you would need to effectively shorten the manifold length to compensate - IF you were trying to maintain the design EDDIE point.
 
There is always the possibility that there is a major flaw in my analysis or synthesis of the governing equations - that I am just oblivious to.  To date, I've only showed it to one other person and nothing obviously incorrect jumped out to them.  However, I intend to have Tracy Crook review it at SERFI next weekend, so if you never hear from me again after that you can draw your own conclusions {:>) 
 
I mean how much would you trust the work of a guy that tried to throw "density" into the speed of sound equation?? Actually, I used the correct formula for speed and temp, but thought that the reason the speed changed with temp was because the density of air changed with temp.
 
 But, the EDDIE  provides an answer for  every strange thing I've noticed about power production with my installation - and besides it stacks up well, when compared to what little concrete we think we know from Mazda about their use of the effect in the rotary. 
 
 
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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