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From: Bulent Aliev <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: My Oshkosh rant
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:17:29 -0400
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I was biting my lip trying not to start a war. But since you said it =20
so very well, Ernest you da Man. I support everything you said. =20
Somehow somebody have to remind tom that EAA does not stand for =20
Exotic Aviation Association :)
Bulent "Buly" Aliev
FXE Ft lauderdale, FL
http://tinyurl.com/s5xw8


On Aug 4, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Ernest Christley wrote:

> James Maher wrote:
>
>> The EAA felt that the Homebuilt review was important enough that =20
>> it was made a part of the airshow and we flew 26 aircraft under =20
>> the airshow waiver.
>
> So the EAA felt that the people who built the EAA deserved a bone. =20
> How quaint.
>
>> I spoke with some of the vendors who usually flew their aircraft =20
>> in their showcase and they were very upset that they were not =20
>> allowed to fly this year. Especially since they paid a high price =20
>> for their static displays.
>
> So let 'em be upset. They contracted for a static display. They got =20=

> a static display. I don't see companies getting upset because they =20
> paid for a billboard at the ball stadium but didn't get special =20
> attention at the halftime show.
>
>> I=92ve also heard that many of the Warbird owners decided to boycott =20=

>> airventure this year because the EAA decided that they would no =20
>> longer comp them for their fuel cost as they have done in years past.
>
> Good. If they don't have enough pride in what they've built to pay =20
> for their own gas like everyone else, good riddance....wait a =20
> minute...they didn't build them? Then what is experimental about =20
> them, and why was the EAA paying for their gas in the first place? =20
> The only question I have is do you think we could convince the jet-=20
> powered outhouse to go wherever it is that the warbirds are now going?
>
>> For those who have complaints about the EAA there are several =20
>> avenues that you may use to have them addressed. There is the =20
>> Homebuilt council whose charter is to represent the homebuilders =20
>> within the EAA. This was formed seven years ago and continues to =20
>> champion the homebuilder=92s agenda. There is an EAA staff member, =20=

>> Charlie Becker, who also represents the homebuilders at the EAA. =20
>> If you belong to a local EAA chapter this is another avenue to =20
>> address concerns within the EAA.
>
> You see, there's the rub. It has presented itself as an =20
> organization that represents homebuilders. Turns out, it's an =20
> organization with a group of homebuilders fighting for =20
> representation. My complaint with the EAA is that they don't =20
> provide me with a service. When I'm spending my money, I'm the =20
> number one consideration. They've choosen to be a 'big tent' =20
> organization, but the problem with the 'big tent' mentallity is =20
> that you stand the chance of forgetting why you started building a =20
> tent in the first place. The vendors who can afford the expensive =20
> static displays and the guys selling kits have lots of money to =20
> spend, and get a lot of attention in return. Me, if I'm going to =20
> spend my money, I need support building an airplane so that I can =20
> stand beside it on the flightline, point to each piece and say, "I =20
> made that." But advertisers don't make much money when people do =20
> that, so instead we get articles about painting a Cessna pink. =20
> (Damn, I know they want to increase female participation, but that =20
> one was just stupid.) Yes, I do believe the dumbing down of SA goes =20=

> beyond liability. Uncle Tom knows which side of the bread holds the =20=

> butter, and that side prefers advertisements for kits vs articles =20
> describing how to cheaply make your own in an afternoon.
>
>> The point I am trying to make is you can sit on the sidelines and =20
>> complain like so many are prone to do, and make excuses why you =20
>> don=92t wish to participate, or you can get involved like others do =20=

>> and try to change things to what you wish them to be.
>
> Or I can let 'em have it, take my money and go play somwhere else. =20
> Find an organization to take my money that is interested in =20
> supporting me. That will change things to what I wish them to be =20
> much quicker. I don't see a need to fight for recognition. If they =20
> choose to switch the game to something I care to play, maybe I'll =20
> come back some day.
>
> --=20
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