X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1300454 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:57:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-111-186.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.111.186]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k74IuAUw018466 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c6b7f7$aaf84400$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: E-Turbo Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:56:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7D6.238745F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7D6.238745F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree, Bill. I looked into it and then came across a photo. The photo concerned a = guy who had a nitrous bottle in the trunk of his car. Photo showed = remains of the rear end of the car and what was left of his garage after = the bottle blew up. I believe the cause was traced to a heater blanket = around the bottle that apparently malfunctioned and overheated the = bottle. The damage was let us say spectacular to say the lease. I'm = certain it is a very rare occurrence - but, it cooled my desire for NO2 = {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wrjjrs@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: E-Turbo Ed and group, If you only need boost for a few seconds why not run nitrous. Much = easier to plumb and make work. A small bottle isn't even a big weight = penalty. Ken runs it on the rotary powered Coot to get it on the step in = the water and has had great success. Bill Jepson =20 -----Original Message----- From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 8:09 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: E-Turbo Hi John, There has been several of these so-called Electrical turbo/super = chargers. One that was the rage a year or two ago advertised 2psi and = 350 cfm for around $69.99. The thing might could have produced 2psi = with no flow or 350cfm with no pressure above ambient - but not both at = the same time. Just did not have enough power. I recently saw another one that was a bit more credible claiming = 1.7psi at 300-400 cfm with a big current drawing DC motor. They clearly = state that it was intended for only a short duration run. The price of = this one was around $350, so might be the one you are referring to. If = they can spin it to the 23,000 rpm they claim, it just might produce = some results. At least this one does appear to have a centrifugal = compressor (looks like a turbo compressor housing in the photo). Here's = the URL: http://www.eturbocharger.com/ However, you will now be required to haul the weight and complexity of = a system that can apparently be used for only a few seconds. I also = considered whether it would be worth it (to me) and could not convince = myself that it would. I would certainly be interested in the results = with a rotary if you try it.. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Downing=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] E-Turbo Gentlemen; After I mentioned the electric water pump which set off = the firestorm, I figured that I might as well throw this one out. In = the new JC Whitney catalog that came yesterday, there is an electric = turbo charger for on demand boost, all for $349.00. Rated at 803 cfm, = that should ram in enough air for short field take offs, while getting = away from the heat, by-pass and the continued cooling that is needed = with the exhaust turbo. Every day there are more options to experiment = with. I still have the two bushels of pistons with holes (auto related) = in them to remind me that I'm not ready to try the turbo in the = airplane. JohnD -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email = and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7D6.238745F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree, Bill.
 
  I looked into it and then came = across a=20 photo.  The photo concerned  a guy who had a nitrous bottle in = the=20 trunk of his car.  Photo showed remains of the rear end of the car = and what=20 was left of his garage after the bottle blew up.  I believe the = cause was=20 traced to a heater blanket around the bottle that apparently = malfunctioned and=20 overheated the bottle.  The damage was let us say spectacular to = say the=20 lease.  I'm certain it is a very rare occurrence - but, it cooled = my desire=20 for NO2 {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 = 12:11=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = E-Turbo

 
 Ed and group,
If you only need boost for a few seconds why not run nitrous. = Much easier=20 to plumb and make work. A small bottle isn't even a big weight = penalty. Ken=20 runs it on the rotary powered Coot to get it on the step in the water = and has=20 had great success.
Bill Jepson
 
-----Original Message-----
From: eanderson@carolina.rr.comTo:=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 8:09 = AM
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: E-Turbo

Hi John,
 
There has been several of these so-called = Electrical=20 turbo/super chargers.  One that was the rage a year or two ago = advertised=20 2psi and 350 cfm for around $69.99.  The thing might could have = produced=20 2psi with no flow or 350cfm with no pressure above ambient - but not = both at=20 the same time.  Just did not have enough power.
 
I recently saw another one that was a bit more = credible=20 claiming 1.7psi at 300-400 cfm with a big current drawing DC = motor.  They=20 clearly state that it was intended for only a short duration = run.  The=20 price of this one was around $350, so might be the one you are = referring=20 to.  If they can spin it to the 23,000 rpm they claim, it just = might=20 produce some results.  At least this one does appear to have a=20 centrifugal compressor (looks like a turbo compressor housing in the=20 photo).  Here's the URL:
 
 
However, you will now be required to haul the = weight and=20 complexity of a system that can apparently be used for only a few=20 seconds.  I also considered whether it would be worth it (to me) = and=20 could not convince myself that it would.  I would certainly be = interested=20 in the results with a rotary if you try it..
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John=20 Downing
To: Rota= ry=20 motors in aircraft
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 = 9:11=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = E-Turbo

Gentlemen;  After I mentioned = the electric=20 water pump which set off the firestorm, I figured that I might as = well throw=20 this one out.  In the new JC Whitney catalog that came = yesterday, there=20 is an electric turbo charger for on demand boost, all for = $349.00. =20 Rated at 803 cfm, that should ram in enough air for short field take = offs,=20 while getting away from the heat, by-pass and the continued cooling = that is=20 needed with the exhaust turbo.  Every day there are more = options to=20 experiment with.  I still have the two bushels of pistons with = holes=20 (auto related) in them to remind me that I'm not ready to try the = turbo in=20 the airplane.  JohnD
Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, = video search,=20 pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always=20 Free.
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