X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1333445 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:46:36 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.68.10.87; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-dkim-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.79]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2006 07:45:48 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,205,1151910000"; d="scan'208"; a="309378987:sNHT1483975604" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-5.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k72EjlAP002194 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:45:47 -0700 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k72EjgBo011850 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:45:40 -0400 Received: from [64.102.38.136] ([64.102.38.136]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: <44D0BA94.6070803@nc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:45:40 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2006 14:45:41.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[536A4CD0:01C6B642] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-5.cisco.com; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Dale Rogers wrote: > Russell Duffy wrote: > >> Glad to hear that you made another safe trip, but sorry to hear of >> your friend in the RV-6. Accidents like that just shouldn't happen... > > > With all due respect, unless it was the result of an > unpredicatable mechanical failure it wasn't an > "accident". > > It was a "stupid" - possibly partly on the part of > OSH Ground, but certainly on the part of the Avenger > pilot. There's just no good excuse for not knowing > that the way ahead is clear, when on the ground, of > all places. > Preach it, Dale. Busiest airport in the world. Can't see what is ahead. Mixture of extreme types of airplanes...ultralights to P-51...all over the place. Why the $$$$ is any aircraft having to do S turns to see what is ahead? Any plane without full forward visibility should either A) be towed to the run-up area, B) have walkers at each wing tip, or C) not be allowed to move. It's called positive control, and if there aren't enough resources to maintain positive control then the event needs to be scaled back until they are put in place. This isn't a local grass strip fly-in, pilot's shouldn't expect to move around as if it were, and the organizer's shouldn't expect that a cavalier, laissez faire attitude won't get people killed. I for one will do my part to insure that it does not grow any larger until the right mindset is instilled in the organizers. -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org |