X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1233857 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:03:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.227; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146]) by mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6CF2SCp007143 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:02:28 -0400 Received: from 209-225-8-113.charter.net (HELO fepweb13) ([209.225.8.113]) by mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jul 2006 11:02:28 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,236,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="570592962:sNHT23291112" Message-ID: <286016210.1152716548304.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 8:02:28 -0700 From: To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: - piezo ignition Cc: jesse farr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal This is the same type of system that GAMI is using to control the timing on= their aircraft engines and using to develop a new FADEC type aircraft cont= oller......it senses the pressures in the cylinder thru a modified spark pl= ug by altering the timing to prevent overpressures. Marc Wiese- --- jesse farr wrote:=20 > Maybe us jokers are not too terribly far off after all. It seems like suc= h is being worked on right now, even as we hunt and peck. Oh well. Now why = can't that also be set up to operate fuel injectors where Ed can then just = use his cell phone, gravity feed tanks and an inertia starter. > jofarr, soddy tn >=20 > >>> Mid=C3=A9 Technology Corp. in Boston is currently developing an inno= vative Piezo-electric Ignition and Sensing Device (PISD) under a Phase II s= ponsorship from a NASA Glenn Research Center Small Business Innovative Rese= arch (SBIR) Program (Contract No. NAS3-98054). The patented invention (US P= atent # 6,138,654) is a device that allows pressure increases in the cylind= er of an internal combustion engine to strain piezo-electric elements. This= strain generates a voltage across the poles of the piezo, proportional to = the change in cylinder pressure. The voltage increases until it is sufficie= nt to create an ignition spark between the two electrodes of the spark plug= . A separate electronic controller, that monitors the voltage output from t= he piezo, controls the spark timing. After ignition, the piezo continues to= strain due to the rapid increase in pressure during the combustion process= . Sensing the piezo voltage output after combustion provides valuable infor= mation on the combustion cycle and may identify anomalies such as pre-ignit= ion, knock and misfires. <<< >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: jesse farr=20 >=20 > I thought that was to just indicate to us that you were piezoing on our = leg just a little. But, who knows, next week, the Dube may tell us how it c= an be done, now that you have broached the subject.=20 > jofarr, soddy tn