X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1138135 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:11:27 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.68.10.86; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2006 13:10:35 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,204,1146466800"; d="scan'208"; a="1818319283:sNHT66971924" Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k52KAYTe006431 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:10:34 -0700 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k52KAYIs014188 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:10:33 -0400 Received: from [64.102.38.136] ([64.102.38.136]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:10:33 -0400 Message-ID: <44809B39.4070908@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:10:33 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop design speed References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2006 20:10:33.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[9ACE8740:01C68680] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1.cisco.com; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Heidi Johnson wrote: >20% [or rather 80% efficent] isn't really that huge, I think the norm for a run of the mill fixed prop is >in the range of about 85%, Paul Lipps posted a note someplace just recently saying his props's >are just over the 90% [ I think] so.. it's a decent [conservative] ball-park number anyway.. > >Jarrett Johnson > > It's a notoriously difficult number to nail down, because it depends on how fast the engine is turning and how fast the airplane is moving. The figure is 0% during the run-up. Go to altitude and pull throttle in a dive, the figure can shoot up to over 100% (right after the wings come off). I would think a conscientous manufacturer like Catto would quote a typical figure that would include a balance of climb and WOT cruise performance, the former being low and the latter much higher. When it's all rolled up though, I don't think the numbers that Joe is quoting are all that far off. If he was getting 80% efficiency, it would indicate the prop is pitched at 91". If he were reaching 95%, the prop would be pitched at 77". Add in a few other fudged factors, like where the pitch was measured as Joe has already mentioned, and everything looks fairly reasonable. -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |