Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #31873
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rationalization was [FlyRotary] Re: Questions from a potential rotaryphile
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:35:19 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Ok, Al.  I did misread it.  No question that the rotary's did burn more fuel than the Lycomings, I had interpreted that as burning more fuel/making more power as they flew faster than the lycoming powered aircraft during that one phase of the comparison.
 
I didn't zero in on the part of the article indicating  that they were all going the same airspeed when the fuel burn comparison was made. 
 
 But, it still was not as informative as it could have been, in that these were unusual "P" port engines - not the normal side ports  that 90% of us are flying.  If both rotary engines had been the normal side port, I think the comparison would have been more interesting (and perhaps more likely to have been closer in both the power and fuel burn).
 
All of that said, I still think the comparison showed the rotary can indeed "stay" with a Lycoming.  Perhaps burning a bit more - but as you pointed out  - cheaper fuel.  So when the day is done, I think the argument has been raised to a higher level.  Its no longer about whether a rotary can compete with a Lycoming, it clearly can do that, so the questions will now focus on the relative difference in costs of operation, reliability, cost of maintenance,   effort in building your own FWF, etc. 
 
 Of course, this is all my 0.02 as usual.
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From: al p wick
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rationalization was [FlyRotary] Re: Questions from a potential rotaryphile

Ed, you may want to reread the article. They weighed all the planes, added ballast to the light ones to equal things out, then all flew same speed, altitude on long cross country. The reported fuel use differences were real.
Only points they didn't consider was the fact that both rotaries were burning 87 octane instead of 100LL. I don't know the difference in energy per gallon, but there sure is a difference in $. So if they compared cost for the trip, rotary would win.
It would have been nice if the author had compared the operating expense difference, but in all fairness, pilots tend to think in terms of GPH.

-al wick
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On Mon, 22 May 2006 09:16:20 -0400 "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> writes:
 Even the Aviation Sport article supports that conclusion, even if they did dwell on the fuel burn (and Noise {:>),being higher.  Well of course, the  fuel consumption was higher - it was producing more power and beating the lycoming power RV-8. 
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