X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m12.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with SMTP id 1123301 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:45:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.30.75; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com Received: from m12.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m12.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCHDVUZA5288ZS for (sender ); Mon, 22 May 2006 07:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alwick@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LQYXW44G; Mon, 22 May 2006 07:44:29 PDT To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:43:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Questions from a potential rotaryphile Message-ID: <20060522.074359.3288.3.alwick@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_0691.34ea.16c5 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,10-13,15-16,21-22,28-29,31-32,38-39,41-42,49-50,52-56,58-60,64-65,66-32767 From: al p wick X-ContentStamp: 17:8:1101493632 X-MAIL-INFO:4e9179f4cdc5109dfd0160a0a009e48574c0e0297405547504c1600475 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkCN/F0/JDkOSkvOZfX76TfK5C2BkkrI2+g== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m12.lax.untd.com|alwick@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_0691.34ea.16c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm here Ed. Appreciate your consideration given you were inadvertently set up. The original post is below. You will note the paragraph above the section you read talks about negative effect of EXCLUSIVE use of av fuel. Also described with "this happens every 20 hours". Original post fwiw: < writes: I'm a bit surprised hearing it came from Al Wick as he was on this list for a while. I thought he had a better understanding of what was going on with the rotary. But, you're right a little knowledge means incomplete knowledge which can be dangerous. Ed ----__JNP_000_0691.34ea.16c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm here Ed. Appreciate your consideration given you were = inadvertently set=20 up. The original post is below. You will note the paragraph above the = section=20 you read talks about negative effect of EXCLUSIVE use of av fuel. Also = described=20 with "this happens every 20 hours".
 
Original post fwiw:
 
<<Al- just let me in on the system for the auto engine logistics= - do=20 all the FBO's serve up auto fuel?
 
Auto fuel relatively difficult to find at airports. You can do web = search=20 for all the ones within flying distance. I planned my flight from west = coast to=20 Osh last year. Two different routes. With the cruise range of the Cozy it = was no=20 big deal to buy auto all the way. I recall one location I'd have to buy&= nbsp;a=20 few gallons of aviation fuel.
 
In the past, auto engines would notice slight rpm drop during = cruise=20 if they exclusively burned aviation fuel. Week after week it would increase= . If=20 they ran one tank of auto fuel, it would fix itself until around 10 avgas = tanks=20 later. They now use Marvel Mystery oil of all things, and it reportedly=20 eliminates all negative effects. Marvel better than 2 other lead=20 scavengers.
 
<<Do the rotory fliers carry chain saw oil mix with them when = going=20 cross country to pour in their tanks after a fill up?
 
Rotary is different issue. Their unusual combustion = chamber=20 requires them to mix 2 cycle oil with each tank. If they don't their = compression=20 seals die prematurely. Just like your boat motor mix, I don't see it as a = big=20 deal. In addition, if they use aviation fuel, they develop power drop = on=20 departure and have to replace all their plugs before next flight. This = happens=20 every 20 hours. They don't have solution for this.
 
<<somebody said they were using jerry cans of auto gas and= =20 bringing them to their hanger to fill up their tanks- is this right?
 
I find almost all my flying is from home base, returning later that = day. So=20 I fill (3) 5 gallon cans at gas station 1 mile away from airport. While I'm= =20 doing preflight, these drain into my mobile 30 gallon tank. I then wheel it= over=20 to the plane and it takes 20 seconds to fill tank. (compressed air = transfers it=20 very rapidly). Neat trick I learned from motorcycle buddy. No more = inconvenient=20 than taxiing over to HBO to get fuel, way less expensive.
 
If I don't value auto fuel savings, just add some Marvel each av = tank,=20 off I go.
 
-al wick
 
 
On Mon, 22 May 2006 08:06:13 -0400 "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>= =20 writes:

I'm a bit surprised hearing = it came=20 from Al Wick as he was on this list for a while.  I thought he = had a=20 better understanding of what was going on with the rotary.  But,= =20 you're right a little knowledge means incomplete knowledge which can = be=20 dangerous.
 
Ed
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