Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #31766
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Black vice Blue was [FlyRotary] Re: oil cooling issues
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:56:15 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: oil cooling issues

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: oil cooling issues

I have seen 260 F. many times, and I consider that normal during climb
and taxi.  I also use Mobil One Synthetic oil, to tolerate the heat.
During cruise it will stabilize at 220F. 

You need to get the oil above 220 F, to evaporate the moisture anyway.
 

 

Hi George,

 

The "standard" (closest we have to one) for measuring oil temp is to measure it as it returns to the engine, after the cooler.  According to Racing Beat, this temp should never exceed 210 F.  Lot's of folks have exceeded this for short periods, up to 240 F or so, and have had no problems, but it's not something you really want to keep doing.  

 

As I understand it, the issue is not the breakdown of the oil, but the melting of the rotor bearings.

 

Hum-m.  I was under the impression that the limiting factor side seal O-rings.

 

I’ve had the oil temp (after cooler) up to 220 -225 a few times for very short periods on the ground.  With no effective air flow through the cooler, the before-cooler temp was only 3-4 degrees higher.  It’s a different issue when running at high power where before-cooler temps may be 30-50 degrees higher.

 

Al

 

That is my impression as well.  Auto racing is another matter.  They are stressing the rotor bearings a lot more than we are (mainly due to RPM) so that is probably the weak link in their use. 

 

 Your numbers for pre/post oil cooler temps are what I am seeing when in-flight, I.e. 180 after the cooler = 220 - 230 in the pan.   This is a valuable number with which to judge oil cooler effectiveness.   If you don't get this much delta or more, your cooler is too small or airflow too little.  

 

Tracy  (still can't figure out why I can't change text color after Al's stuff)

 
That's because Al apparently has set the font to color blue in the font format menu, this apparently precludes you from changing it in your reply by using the simple alphabet color selection at the head of the e mail window. However, if
you go into the format/font menu and select the color palette and then select color black and then specify color
black in the font dialog box and then select "black" from the "A" box, you can be back into the color "black".  Yes, a slow day here {:>)
 
Ed
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