Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2581072 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:51:58 -0400 Received: from rv8 (12-225-206-211.client.attbi.com[12.225.206.211](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003091605515701600gnfeue>; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:51:57 +0000 Message-ID: <22e501c37c16$59f50360$d3cee10c@rv8> From: "kevin lane" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rounding up the missing horses, and my dunce cap Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:49:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_22E2_01C37BDB.ABC7ACF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_22E2_01C37BDB.ABC7ACF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Messagewhile in college I installed a Buick v-6 in my willys m-38 jeep. = one day I had the bright idea of putting it in low transfer, first gear, = and driving it back into the garage simply using the starter. I forgot = I had a rod disconnected and it drove the rod clear thru the block. duh! Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 (browse w/ internet explorer) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marko Bewersdorff=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rounding up the missing horses, and my dunce = cap Did you ever change a clutch disk in a car and then after drive-shafts = and all was back together the pedal didn't go in all the way in and the = clutch didn't disengage?=20 Taking it all apart again and measuring the new clutch disk thickness = to no avail and re-assembling it --- same problem, pedal moves half way = and hits stop.=20 going down the list of options I eventually checked what pedal I had = my foot on, well I did only sit in the car with one but cheek - I had = pressed twice in a row the brake pedal - so call me anytime you need = some fine technical advise ;-) Marko -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:18 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Rounding up the missing horses, and my dunce cap Greetings, The grand prize may go to Bruce Turrentine, with points to Tracy = also. I called Bruce today, and the first comment out of his mouth was = "are you sure you aren't way retarded on your timing". Well, I didn't = think so, but after careful measurement, I found that my original = measurement wasn't so careful. =20 Remember that during my first runs, I though the timing was = retarded, and manually advanced it some. The engine seemed to run = better, but after discussing this some, and believing that I had set it = correctly statically, I set it back and forgot about it. Well, my = static mark was 10 degrees off. That means I've been running about 12 = degrees BTDC, rather than the normal 22. Think this will make a = difference? Yep, me too. =20 I ran the engine briefly, and found that everything has changed, and = I'll have to re-tune the whole thing. I haven't thought about it enough = to explain it, but now I'm way rich over the range that I can run = without being tied down (about 20 inches MAP). The mixture knob is = close to fully CCW now. I never understood how I could run Tracy's = parameters and have the correct mixture, when my injectors were so much = larger. Now if it will just reduce the boost at full throttle :-) Rusty (I'm a dumbass) ------=_NextPart_000_22E2_01C37BDB.ABC7ACF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
while in college I installed = a Buick v-6=20 in my willys m-38 jeep.  one day I had the bright idea of putting = it in low=20 transfer, first gear, and driving it back into the garage simply using = the=20 starter.  I forgot I had a rod disconnected and it drove the rod = clear thru=20 the block. duh!
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net
web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773
(browse=20 w/ internet explorer)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Marko=20 Bewersdorff
Sent: Monday, September 15, = 2003 10:22=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rounding up the=20 missing horses, and my dunce cap

Did=20 you ever change a clutch disk in a car and then after = drive-shafts and=20 all was back together the pedal didn't go in all the way in and the = clutch=20 didn't disengage?
Taking it all apart again and measuring the new clutch disk = thickness=20 to no avail and re-assembling it --- same problem,  pedal moves = half way=20 and hits stop.
going down the list of options I eventually checked what = pedal I had my=20 foot on, well I did only sit in the car with one but cheek - I had = pressed=20 twice in a row the brake pedal - so call me anytime you need some = fine=20 technical advise ;-)
 
 
Marko
 
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:18 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Rounding up the = missing=20 horses, and my dunce cap

Greetings,
 
The grand = prize may go=20 to Bruce Turrentine, with points to Tracy also.  I called Bruce = today,=20 and the first comment out of his mouth was "are you sure you aren't = way=20 retarded on your timing".  Well, I didn't think so, but after = careful=20 measurement, I found that my original measurement wasn't so = careful. =20
 
Remember = that during my=20 first runs, I though the timing was retarded, and manually advanced = it=20 some.  The engine seemed to run better, but after discussing = this some,=20 and believing that I had set it correctly statically, I set it back = and=20 forgot about it.  Well, my static mark was 10 degrees = off.  That=20 means I've been running about 12 degrees BTDC, rather than the = normal=20 22.   Think this will make a difference?  Yep, me = too. =20
 
I ran the = engine=20 briefly, and found that everything has changed, and I'll have to = re-tune the=20 whole thing.  I haven't thought about it enough to explain it, = but now=20 I'm way rich over the range that I can run without being tied down = (about 20=20 inches MAP).  The mixture knob is close to fully CCW now.  = I never=20 understood how I could run Tracy's parameters and have the correct = mixture,=20 when my injectors were so much larger.   Now if it = will just=20 reduce the boost at full throttle :-)
 
Rusty (I'm = a=20 dumbass)
 
 
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