X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 941521 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:52:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.131.117; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from 204.127.135.59 ([204.127.135.59]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20060123025121113005c90re>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:51:26 +0000 Received: from [64.136.27.229] by 204.127.135.59; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:51:20 +0000 From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector pulseing ? Tracy ? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:51:20 +0000 Message-Id: <012320060251.29581.43D444A80001ECBD0000738D2160280651019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 10 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29581_1137984680_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29581_1137984680_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, Below is a series of posts to Mark Burton of markb@smartavionics.com who has developed a constant speed controller for electric props.......I heard about it on the Subaru forum......Good things were said about it......I contacted Mark to inquire if it would work for the IVO......All indications are the it will.......The website has a very extensive installation and user manual that can be printed.......Looks like he is in G.B. if I read the currency conversion correctly !! Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from "John Slade" : -------------- > > Thanks for the info......I am talking to the producer of a > > constant speed prop controller for my "IVO" and he needed to > > know how many injector pulses per revolution.....Uses it as a > > signal for the power percentage function of his controller.... > > Like I need to duplicate one of my EM2 functions !! > Tell us more, Kelly. > Is this controller going to be generally available? > How much? > John > _______________________________________________________________________________ From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) Save Address Reminder To: Mark Burton Subject: Re: Constant Speed Controller Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:30:31 +0000 [View Source] Mark, The 13B two rotor engine injectors pulse once per revolution (batch fire). We use two injectors per rotor (staged by manifold pressure). I will study the user and installation manual and get back with you . Thanks Again, -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from Mark Burton : -------------- > > Mark, > > > Most of the "IVO's" flying are using a 20-0-20 amp ammeter to monitor load > on > > the pitch motor when changing pitch......You are right the IVO does not have > limit > > switches and will stall motor if taken to the mechanical stops.....IVO offers > their > > version of a constant speed controller but it is not close to the capability > of your > > unit from what I can tell.......The 13B rotary engine has dual computerized > IGN > > and EFI and a proper signal from IGN , EFI or tach is no problem........Can > > you tell me the current price of your unit ? > > > Thanks for that info. > > As I mentioned before, the CSC has stall current detection so it > should work fine with the IVO. > > I have just introduced the option to derive the %power display from > the fuel injector pulse width so it should work very well with the 13B > EFI. This should give a very accurate %power readout which can > (optionally) be displayed as a fuel flow. > > On a rotary engine, how often do you get a fuel injection pulse for > each rotor? Is it once per revolution? > > The price is 480 GBP (approx 840 USD) for the CSC and 55 GBP (approx > 96 USD) for the manifold pressure sensor if you want it. Prices don't > include shipping. > > Once the CSC can be supplied again, you will be able to order one > through the Smart Avionics website using a credit card. > > If you haven't done so already, I recommend downloading the > installation and user manual from www.smartavionics.com. > > Best regards, > > Mark --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29581_1137984680_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
John,
   Below is a series of posts to Mark Burton of markb@smartavionics.com who has developed
a constant speed controller for electric props.......I heard about it on the Subaru forum......Good
things were said about it......I contacted Mark to inquire if it would work for the IVO......All
indications are the it will.......The website has a very extensive installation and user manual that
can be printed.......Looks like he is in G.B. if I read the currency conversion correctly !!

Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from "John Slade" <sladerj@bellsouth.net>: --------------


> > Thanks for the info......I am talking to the producer of a
> > constant speed prop controller for my "IVO" and he needed to
> > know how many injector pulses per revolution.....Uses it as a
> > signal for the power percentage function of his controller....
> > Like I need to duplicate one of my EM2 functions !!
> Tell us more, Kelly.
> Is this controller going to be generally available?
> How much?
> John


> _______________________________________________________________________________

From:   
keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer)     Save Address     Reminder
To:    Mark Burton <markb@smartavionics.com>
Subject:    Re: Constant Speed Controller
Date:    Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:30:31 +0000   [View Source]


Mark,
  The 13B two rotor engine injectors pulse once  per revolution (batch fire). We
use two injectors per rotor (staged by manifold pressure). I will study the user
and installation manual and get back with you .
 
Thanks Again, 
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from Mark Burton <markb@smartavionics.com>: --------------


>
> Mark,
>
> > Most of the "IVO's" flying are using a 20-0-20 amp ammeter to monitor load
> on
> > the pitch motor when changing pitch......You are right the IVO does not have
> limit
> > switches and will stall motor if taken to the mechanical stops.....IVO offers
> their
> > version of a constant speed controller but it is not close to the capability
> of your
> > unit from what I can tell.......The 13B rotary engine has dual computerized
> IGN
> > and EFI and a proper signal from IGN , EFI or tach is no problem........Can
> > you tell me the current price of your unit ?
>
>
> Thanks for that info.
>
> As I mentioned before, the CSC has stall current detection so it
> should work fine with the IVO.
>
> I have just introduced the option to derive the %power display from
> the fuel injector pulse width so it should work very well with the 13B
> EFI. This should give a very accurate %power readout which can
> (optionally) be displayed as a fuel flow.
>
> On a rotary engine, how often do you get a fuel injection pulse for
> each rotor? Is it once per revolution?
>
> The price is 480 GBP (approx 840 USD) for the CSC and 55 GBP (approx
> 96 USD) for the manifold pressure sensor if you want it. Prices don't
> include shipping.
>
> Once the CSC can be supplied again, you will be able to order one
> through the Smart Avionics website using a credit card.
>
> If you haven't done so already, I recommend downloading the
> installation and user manual from www.smartavionics.com.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29581_1137984680_0--