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I understand.
The thing that really makes a difference is having the computer warning
pilot of oversights during flight. It's the most effective way to
eliminate the common failures like forgetting to put gear down, running
out of gas, overheated brakes (Ed), fuel cap left off, plugged fuel vent,
etc etc.
regards
Merry new year
-al
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:59:19 -0600 Charlie England
<ceengland@bellsouth.net> writes:
> My impression when I hear 'glass cockpit' is all flight & nav
> instruments so our disagreement may be in my misinterpretation of
> your
> meaning . I just took another look at your web site to see what you
>
> meant by 'glass cockpit'. I can understand using windows for data
> logging & engine monitoring. But, even if Windows wouldn't kill me
> by
> locking up during a VFR flight, I wouldn't want to tie all my flight
>
> instruments & nav duties to it just because of the hassle factor
> when I
> get the blue screen.
>
> Maybe we aren't that far apart in our attitudes about risk vs
> benefit. I
> *do* have an iPaq running moving map in the cockpit, but it is
> non-essential & only a minor irritation when it locks up, since I
> have a
> dedicated GPS/moving map independent of the iPaq.
>
> Charlie
>
> al p Wick wrote:
>
> >Needless to say, you are welcome to use whatever criteria you want
> to
> >make a decision. I try real hard to convert these decisions to
> logical
> >statements. So I would interpret your statement as "Charlie thinks
> the
> >risk of computer shut down is greater than the risk of crashing
> from one
> >of the things it monitors."
> >
> >The computer is running only a couple of applications. It's not on
> the
> >internet. So if I fired up any win platform running one
> application, how
> >often would it crash? If it operated for two weeks without
> crashing, that
> >is equivalent to my flying for two years. Seeing as the average
> pilot
> >flies less than 150 hours a year. Realistically, if Iwas running
> win 3.1
> >(remember that old sys?) EVEN it would go for over 10 years without
> a
> >blue screen.
> >So it's very low risk....but there is more.
> >
> >The blue screen risk is independent probability. So it's only when
> it
> >crashes at the same time as one of the items we monitor goes belly
> up,
> >that we are in trouble. Remember, the laptop doesn't fly the plane.
> It
> >just monitors things, tells you if something is awry. So the odds
> of
> >those two happening at the same time? Holy cow, it must be
> astronomical.
> >1 in x billion or so. Using this logic, it's abundantly clear that
> the
> >windows system is entirely suitable. However, that would change if
> I were
> >using to laptop to perform some flight critical function. Suddenly
> they
> >are not independent probabilities, but dependant ones. But we
> aren't
> >using it in that manner.
> >
> >I managed quality assurance for a living. So I put solutions in
> place,
> >then measured how well the solution worked. I then tried another
> >solution, remeasured. I did this with huge variety of problems. Us
> pilots
> >have the same failure patterns that businesses do. Things like "I
> usually
> >do x, but I was distracted by......." or "I didn't notice......"
> >The intelligent monitoring via glass cockpit is extremely
> effective
> >solution that will save lives. I'd estimate it makes flying around
> 10
> >times safer than the aircraft next to you.
> >
> >
> >-al wick
> >Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru
> 2.5
> >N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
> >Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design
> info:
> >http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:00:46 -0600 Charlie England
> ><ceengland@bellsouth.net> writes:
> >
> >
> >>I run xp home & xp pro at home, xp pro at work supported by a Huge
> IT
> >>
> >>group (US Gov. agency). XP is much more reliable than the older
> >>versions; it only locks up once every week or two instead of every
>
> >>day
> >>like the older versions.
> >>
> >>No thanks on MS in the cockpit, except for stuff like an iPaq
> that's
> >>
> >>non-essential.
> >>
> >>Charlie
> >>
> >>al p Wick wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I suspect there are not Unix versions, but don't know for sure.
> You
> >>>
> >>>
> >>may
> >>
> >>
> >>>be able to find out from wonderware web site. There are no
> >>>
> >>>
> >>penalties for
> >>
> >>
> >>>using windows. Particularly newer versions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-al wick
> >>>Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock
> Subaru
> >>>
> >>>
> >>2.5
> >>
> >>
> >>>N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
> >>>Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel
> design
> >>>
> >>>
> >>info:
> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:52:06 -0500 Ernest Christley
> >>><echristley@nc.rr.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>al p Wick wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I take advantage of off the shelf software and hardware.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Al, I've looked at you're glass panel page. I'm not sure, but
> it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>appears that you base the system on a software package from
> >>>>Wonderware?
> >>>>Are there Unix versions of this software available, or is it
> >>>>strickly a
> >>>>Microsoft shop? I couldn't find that information anywhere on
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>their
> >>
> >>
> >>>>website.
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>-al wick
> >>>Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock
> Subaru
> >>>
> >>>
> >>2.5
> >>
> >>
> >>>N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
> >>>Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel
> design
> >>>
> >>>
> >>info:
> >>
> >>
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> >-al wick
> >Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru
> 2.5
> >N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
> >Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design
> info:
> >http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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-al wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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