X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with SMTP id 870777 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:45:18 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.22.78; envelope-from=jbker@juno.com Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m15.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABB3YJRCA7G6EPA for (sender ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbker@juno.com) by m15.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LBVNSEN7; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:42:51 PST To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:02:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Static Engine RPM Message-ID: <20051210.133845.1308.8.JBKER@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_3bbe.24d1.55e0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-8,10-12,14,22-27,31-32,35-37,38-32767 From: WALTER B KERR X-ContentStamp: 12:6:53277016 X-MAIL-INFO:31036f5abbefd37ebede9adbdb2ff7af8a4afa3a8a97fe6af37b9af36a X-UNTD-OriginStamp: Y+Mfppm2QyGfnY/dq+iW1bvcrysYjLRlk1RGY071aCqJVoOQcd/wRQ== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m15.nyc.untd.com|jbker@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_3bbe.24d1.55e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:11:40 -0500 "Ed Anderson" writes: Hi Kelly, I am getting right at 6000 rpm on static runup. Perhaps 6150 on a cold day. My prop is now 74x88, I had 2" taken off the dia (76") of prop bringing the static up from 5800 to 6000 and making it a bit less hairly on take off. Even now if I go to WOTat start of take off roll, I still do not have sufficient rudder authority to hold nose down the runway- takes a touch of the brake as well. If I feed in the power a bit slower and permit airspeed to get up to around 40 mph then I can shove in full throttle and hold it with rudder along. So the 2.85 and monster prop has certainly increased the take off performance. Ed A =========================================== Hi Ed, Don't forget to add that the P-factor is now in the opposite direction and I believe you did not change angle of engine mount to offset this. I'm not questioning that you get more thrust with this set up, just questioning if your criteria of lack of rudder is a good indicator. Took your prop and the sensenich to plant city and left both with them. Will probably be able to pick them up on the way home from Memphis after Christmas. Cheers and Merry Christmas in NC, Bernie ----__JNP_000_3bbe.24d1.55e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:11:40 -0500 "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>= =20 writes:
Hi Kelly,
 
I am getting right at 6000 rpm on static runup.&= nbsp;=20 Perhaps 6150 on a cold day.
My prop is now 74x88, I had 2" taken off the= dia=20 (76") of prop bringing the static up from 5800 to 6000 and making it= a=20 bit less hairly on take off.  Even now if I go  to WOTat = start=20 of take off roll,  I still do not have sufficient rudder authority = to=20 hold nose down the runway- takes a touch of the brake as well.  If I= feed=20 in the power a bit slower and permit airspeed to get up to around 40 mph = then=20 I can shove in full throttle and hold it with rudder along. So the 2= .85=20 and monster prop has certainly increased the take off=20 performance.
 
Ed A 
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Hi Ed,
 
Don't forget to add that the P-factor is now in the opposite = direction=20 and I believe you did not change angle of engine mount to offset this. = I'm=20 not questioning that you get more thrust with this set up, just=20 questioning if your criteria of lack of rudder is a good=20 indicator.
 
Took your prop and the sensenich to plant city and left both with = them.=20 Will probably be able to pick them up on the way home from Memphis = after=20 Christmas.
 
Cheers and Merry Christmas in NC,
Bernie
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