X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with SMTP id 612611 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:50:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.22.78; envelope-from=jbker@juno.com Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m15.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABBQEYHTAKJS2WA for (sender ); Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: Y+Mfppm2QyGfnY/dq+iW1WR4KjpVIQWewVrAuyyWi4YRyiNxsLXRPw== Received: (from jbker@juno.com) by m15.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KYLRQ97T; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:48:49 PDT To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:34:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fiberglass runners Message-ID: <20050723.104655.2276.3.JBKER@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_0924.68cc.10e3 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-8,10,25-26,31-40,44-45,46-32767 From: WALTER B KERR X-ContentStamp: 16:8:1121619356 X-MAIL-INFO:3b9d254449f961d18db0a9ada9fde02df100fdf9b1b16d1044f06161611dc9d06d44ed6541fdc4654130c430216db5097ded85 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m15.nyc.untd.com|jbker@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_0924.68cc.10e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:12:25 -0500 "Christopher Barber" writes: I have seen some postings over the few years I have been on this list regarding making fiberglass runners for an intake manifold, however, I am unsure if anyone has actually made any and if not why not. If I understand it correctly they are paths for air and would not require any "structural strength, just need to be resistant to the heat in the area they are placed and direct the air properly. If this is true, and please correct me where I am wrong, why would fiberglass runners not work. Is it that there are not that many composite guys on the list (just Mr. Slade and myself?) and as a result are resistant or not skilled in working with fiberglass. Seems they would be light, easy to form and get into tighter places and do the job well. However, I am not an engineer and am concerned about obvious stuff I could easily miss. I am not skilled with any welding (even though my build partner, David Staten, just bought a welder for us to learn with) so like the idea of having alternatives. I am in the final stages of my Velocity airframe construction (now in the micro, sand repeat stage) and feel VERY confident in my abilities with fiberglass. What obvious stuff am I missing regarding using high temp epoxy to make well formed runners out of fiberglass. Y'alls input/insight is greatly appreciated. TIA. All the best, Chris Barber Houston, GSOT LoneStarVelocity.com ============================================= Hi Chris, go to www.rotaryaviation and look under Bernie's RV9A project and you will see my F/G runners. It has been discussed several times on the list how they were made and I'm a metal airplane man so I'm sure you molasses and bedsheet guys can whip up some. bernie ----__JNP_000_0924.68cc.10e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:12:25 -0500 "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net>= =20 writes:
I=20 have seen some postings over the few years I have been on this list = regarding=20 making fiberglass runners for an intake manifold, however, I am unsure if= =20 anyone has actually made any and if not why not.  If I understand it= =20 correctly they are paths for air and would not require any "structural=20 strength, just need to be resistant to the heat in the area they are = placed=20 and direct the air properly.  If this is true, and please correct me= =20 where I am wrong, why would fiberglass runners not work.  Is it that= =20 there are not that many composite guys on the list (just Mr. Slade and=20 myself?) and as a result are resistant or not skilled in working with=20 fiberglass.  Seems they would be light, easy to form and get into = tighter=20 places and do the job well.  However, I am not an engineer and am=20 concerned about obvious stuff I could easily miss.  I am not skilled= with=20 any welding (even though my build partner, David Staten,  just = bought a=20 welder for us to learn with) so like the idea of having=20 alternatives.
 
I am=20 in the final stages of my Velocity airframe construction (now = in the=20 micro, sand repeat stage) and feel VERY confident in my abilities with=20 fiberglass.  What obvious stuff am I missing regarding using high = temp=20 epoxy to make well formed runners out of fiberglass.  Y'alls=20 input/insight is greatly appreciated.  TIA.
 
All=20 the best,
 
Chris Barber
Houston, GSOT
LoneStarVelocity.com
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Hi Chris, go to www.rotaryaviation and look under= =20 Bernie's RV9A project and you will see my F/G runners. It has been = discussed=20 several times on the list how they were made and I'm a metal airplane man= so=20 I'm sure you molasses and bedsheet guys can whip up some.
 
bernie
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