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(VPS 0529-2, 07/21/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I agree it's important everywhere you go, but not always attractive. So let's make it a thread that's easily identifiable so the faint of heart can bypass it. All the stuff you can't discuss in the wardroom :o) ... Jim S. Ernest Christley wrote: > atlasyts@bellsouth.net wrote: > >> C'mon guys, this is ROTARY ENGINE Mailing list. FOCUS! Leave politics >> and religion out of here. >> Buly >> >> > > I don't see how religion will help anything, except to say that I do > pray for you guys to be safe whenever I think about it, but politics > is just the name that we give to the science of getting along with > others. Discussions of politics most definitely has a place in > everything we do within society, lest we find that someone has stolen > our triangular cake while we refused to talk about it. > > Just as we do with our motor installations, we need to break this > situation down to first principles. These people got tangled up in a > convoluted twisting of multiple webs...Social Security meets the FAA > meets Disability payments. The rules and regulations that govern each > of these can be read, but not interpreted by the average American. > Even most above average Americans have a lot of difficulty, as > witnessed by the flamewars the periodically fire up over some > interpretation of a FAR. Just refer to Mr. Callahan's post describing > how a person could do something completely reasonable (fly the same > plane that he's been flying for 50yrs), and get tangled up in the > regulations. > These are not reasonable laws for sane men. The cynical side of me > says that they're a twisted joke played by sadistic daemons hiding > within a faceless government. My reasonable side reminds the cynic > that nothing should be attributed to malice which can be explained by > stupidity and ignorance. What I know for certain, is that > politicians, ever seeking to quiet the mewing masses, use the tangled > mess to bust a few heads when it suits them to put on a show that they > are doing something about society's problems. Some years ago, it was > Food Stamp fraud. I know someone very close that was sentenced to a > few years of probation and given a criminal record for filling out a > confusing form as instructed by the government representative. The > mistake had no bearing on whether she would have recieved benefits, > but the press was all up in arms about 'welfare fraud' and therefore > heads had to roll. Civic resources wasted so that someone doing their > best just to get by can be blindsided with more heartache because they > can't decipher a tangled mess of contradictory language. > > Today, the big scare is anything that's related to airplanes. > Somewhere, somehow, some heads have to roll. We got 48. Maybe that > will be enough. Most likely not. But law enforcement officials do > get a lot of good press for busting anything to do with aviation. The > 'investigation' will need to spread so that people can feel 'safe'. I > feel no safer than I did a few days ago. Most people won't. Maybe > tomorrow some nameless bureaucrat will light on the idea that small > airplanes aren't being inspected properly. It's just their strongly > felt but uninformed opinion, but it will be decided that The Law needs > to be inforced more stringently to insure the public safety. They'll > proceed to bust the head of some clueless A&P that signs off on > somebody's safety wiring that has four twist instead of three. > "Deadly safety violation" is what they'll call it when they harp to > the press. At some point, they'll get around to 'protecting' that > recalcitrant group of rebellious mavericks that insist on using > 'unapproved' engines to fly over the poor unsuspecting public. > > Politics does have a place here. >