X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1022757 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:03:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.164; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.72]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23036403C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.72]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20318-21-9 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-93-70.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.93.70]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C5B3641A6 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42BF884B.8040807@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:02:03 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant Leak References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-5, 06/25/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I think the pressure transients CAN'T be a good thing, or even benign. Maybe they're not big enough to fail something (like a radiator tank, or a flue or something YET, but will eventually. In any event, they dirty up your data just like Al says, and it's so easy to make that transient go away (Al"s cup of air) that I can't see any rational reason not to take that anomaly off the table and get back to reliable, smooth tracking pressure so as to simplify interpretation of the coolant pressure reading. Definitely with Al on this one ... Jim S. Al Gietzen wrote: > I agree, Al. I don't see how that much heating of the coolant could > happen in a second or two. I personally think it has to do with lack > of any air in the system as it does not do that when there is air > present. Could the fact that I used stainless steel braided lines for > the coolant system minimize expansion? In any case, I have flow with > that condition for several hundred hours with no apparent ill effect, > so it does not appear to be anything detrimental to the operation of > the engine. > > Ed > > The important thing is that; whatever the cause, the pressure > transient is apparently a non-issue. Certainly lines covered with > braided SS aren’t going to expand much, but they still have flexible > walls in there that do distort bit with pressure, as will the > thin-walled tank on a radiator. Clearly there is a hydraulic pressure > being transmitted through the cooling system. My guess is that the > cause is likely the immediate expansion of the inside walls of the > rotor housing (temperature and pressure) while everything else is > cool, followed closely thereafter by initial heating of the coolant. > Heat transfer through the rotor housing does not happen > instantaneously. It’s a guess, but hey; other than for mental > gymnastics, who cares? > > Al >