X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1022542 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:40:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.148.227.89; envelope-from=n3773@comcast.net Received: from rv8 (c-24-21-140-241.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.21.140.241]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005062700400701400okrose>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:40:12 +0000 Message-ID: <004901c57ab0$c704a3d0$f18c1518@rv8> Reply-To: "kevin lane" From: "kevin lane" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: amphib thoughts Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:35:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 I am not flying my -6A as extensively as I used to and have been having crazy thoughts, probably from exposure to Rusty, of trading in on an amphib. I was looking at the Sea Ray then remembered that Mr Coot himself lives right across the river from me. Ken, give me a call if you would please. You can bring me up to par on what to look for and what to avoid. I checked into putting the -6A on floats, but there are too many changes to be worth it. I think I want a completed project since I have enough going trying to build the -8. If you guys have comments on this idea I'd would like to hear them. I keep reading about how much fun float planes can be. I guess I can handle the 80 mph until the -8 is completed. Kevin Lane Portland, OR (503) 233-1818 e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "al p wick" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant Leak > Actually, I think the opposite is true. I understand the auto approach is > to NOT have any air in the cooling system. I don't recall the details of > their reasoning. In my experience, the safety advantage of cup-o-air is > much more significant. > BTW, it's probably more like 2 cups. The goal is to have enough air > cushion to prevent pressure from reaching cap rating. When you include > coolant temp, fluid level, and pressure info, it really improves your > understanding of how your system is behaving. > > If you ever open your car radiator and find air at top, it indicates a > problem with your cooling system. > > > > -al wick > Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5 > N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon > Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info: > http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html > > > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:14 -0400 "Ian Dewhirst" > writes: >> Al, your experience with the value of having an air cushion is >> supported by >> every automotive cooling system that I have ever seen (many). >> Typically >> autos use either a pressure cap and expansion tank that is not >> filled to the >> top, or an overflow bottle into which coolant is expelled and >> recovered. I >> get the impression that some people assume that these overflow style >> systems >> contain no vapour when cold, I don't think that assumption is >> correct. The >> overflow systems all have expansion capacity built into the top of >> the >> radiator, or some other part of the cooling system they are never >> completely >> filled with coolant. The bigger the cooling system the greater the >> volume >> of vapour stored cold. >> >> -- Ian >> >> (GM, Chrysler, and Ford are not trying to piss you off with those >> side >> mounted radiator caps.. ;-) >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft >> [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On >> Behalf Of al p wick >> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:58 AM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant Leak >> >> >> My focus is on flight safety. I found great value to having appx. 1 >> cup >> of air at the top of my cooling system.... >> >> >> >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html