X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1021988 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:30:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=bobperk@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.242.181]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626132924.FSHJ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:29:24 -0400 Received: from HpPavilion310n ([68.19.242.181]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626132924.MZDC29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@HpPavilion310n> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:29:24 -0400 From: "Bob Perkinson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant Leak Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:29:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal If there is a closed liquid circuit that is completely void of air and a pump is added to the circuit, the energy that is applied to the pump impeller will show up first as pressure and then heat due to the slippage in the pump. If allowed to run without dissipating the heat a noticeable temperature rise will occur. I would think that it would be normal to see coolant pressure at the pump discharge, with measurable pressure drop through out the system until it reaches the pump suction. If you could spin the water pump on the engine without starting it , after a while there would be a rise in temperature on the system it may not be much but it would be there. The guys that are using electric water pumps may well be able to pre heat the engine running the water pump, it may take all day though.{:>) Bob Perkinson Hendersonville, TN. RV9A N658RP Reserved If nothing changes Nothing changes -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:52 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant Leak > > This may be related to Al Wicks reason for running with a cup of air > trapped in his system, a buffer if you will.....Tim Andres > I do notice that after I have refilled the coolant system (and before the air is all flushed out), that I do not get the immediate surge of pressure to 21-24 psi on start up. It will slowly climb to 8-12 psi depending on power settings and airspeed. However, after several flights and the system is purged of air this phenomena starts to occur. Again, no coolant leak associated with it. I suspect that with the air purged, that this surge has to do with the coolant volumetric area. With no cushion, then any movement of coolant is likely to be sensed as a pressure increase - once the block has warmed up and coolant passages, etc, have warmed up (and expanded), I think there is a slight increase in coolant passage volume and the pressure decrease as a results. Just a SWAG of course. Ed A >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html