X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1021118 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:27:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.166; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DD735803F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27775-03-9 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-93-70.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.93.70]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626383582A3 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42BCCEF2.8050803@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:26:42 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Lines (was: Brake Line Incident Photos) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-4, 06/24/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I have nylaflow on my EZ and Velocity and will probably keep them until they fail. At that juncture I believe I'll go with Niloseal (if that's the new, better stuff to replace Nylaflow with). I'd never go with Al. SS is IMO a huuuge overkill. To each his own ... Jim S. Dale Rogers wrote: >FWIW dept.: > > There are hundreds of Rutan-based canard aircraft flying - and landing - with Nylaflow or Nyloseal brake lines. Many have multiple hundreds of hours on them. It is, under >normal circumstances, a very successful system. > > That said, Mike Melvill, converted his Long-EZ to >Stratoflex (SS braid over Teflon tube), sometime before Oct. >1990. > > That said, too, the Berkut used 1/8" SS brake lines, >throughout. > > The SS tubing is definitely heavier than the synthetic >tubing, but it should last the life of the airframe. But >then, too, so should the Stratoflex. > >Me? I like metal - for some things anyway. :) > >Dale R. >COZY MkIV #1254 > > > > > > > >>From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> >>Date: 2005/06/24 Fri PM 06:40:17 EDT >>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos >> >>Re "stainless steel braided line", Ed: The stuff inside the "stainless >>steel braid" ain't "steel" - it's rubber and/or teflon tubing - stuff that >>will melt from heat soaking from hot calipers back into hose. >> >>Well, I hope you're wrong about the melting part David. The Earl's hose I'm >>using is good for 300F. >> >>I've seen planes with plastic line throughout. In fact, the Kolb in the >>garage has plastic now, but it won't when I get done with it. I've got no >>problem with using plastic for the reservoir, just not the pressure lines. >> >>On the RV-8, I used the aluminum tubing that Van's sent, and never had a bit >>of trouble with it. On the RV-3, I used aluminum, and had 2 or 3 different >>occurrences of cracks near the fitting on the brake caliper. The gear on >>the -3 has some shimmy problems, so I figured it was just getting shaken too >>much. With that in mind, I thought perhaps I had too much loop, but >>reducing it didn't help either. Stainless braided hose did though :-) >> >>Cheers, >>Rusty (no dyno purchase today) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > >