X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1021016 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:00:15 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.198.39; envelope-from=jesse@jessfarr.com Received: from office5 (pcp04959909pcs.midval01.tn.comcast.net[68.59.199.44]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005062500593001500bptvee>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:59:30 +0000 Message-ID: <0ad201c57921$0a118850$057ba8c0@farr.com> From: "jesse farr" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0ACF_01C578FF.82BB1720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0ACF_01C578FF.82BB1720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not saying that nylon line is my item of choice, especially for brake = lines, aircraft or otherwise, just that it actually seems to last better = than many metal lines in air bag suspension systems. I personally think = small stainless lines and stainless flex would be the preferred aircraft = brake stuff (JMHO) even if it might way several ounces more but with = some of the new fittings, probably wouldn't worry about nylon line too = much. And, I have had brakes fail and the thrill of wing tip = replacement; also, prop replacement and engine inspection and = re-assembly another time. Neither was cheap, neither was fun; and, = neither was caused by hydraulic line failure; just brake failure. No = crash and not near as likely as would be with bed and frame settling on = rolling tires at freeway speeds, either. Of course, I am still reminded = of what a old/bold pilot type told me; if you land properly, you should = have enough room to stop/bump the prop properly and roll off or go = around and on to some place with adequate room. The wing tip taught me = you can't necessarily roll on out of it; and, the prop taught me that = the run off area can be sort of soft, too. Maybe, he just didn't seem to = understand some things in this day and age land a little hotter than = cubs and need brakes, I guess; or, maybe he just didn't land at all the = right places. jofarr, soddy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wrjjrs@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos If your truck bottoms out yoou rarely crash. If one brake fails you = are sure to crash. Jofarr, if my kit has the nylon stuff in it I'll GIVE = it you. It will not be used on my plane, period. This is not an area to = scrimp. ------=_NextPart_000_0ACF_01C578FF.82BB1720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not saying that nylon line is my item = of choice,=20 especially for brake lines, aircraft or otherwise, just that it actually = seems=20 to last better than many metal lines in air bag suspension systems. I = personally=20 think small stainless lines and stainless flex would be the preferred = aircraft=20 brake stuff (JMHO) even if it might way several ounces more but with = some of the=20 new fittings, probably wouldn't worry about nylon line too much. And, I = have had=20 brakes fail and the thrill of wing tip replacement; also, prop = replacement and=20 engine inspection and re-assembly another time. Neither was cheap, = neither=20 was fun; and, neither was caused by hydraulic line failure; just = brake=20 failure. No crash and not near as likely as would be with bed and = frame=20 settling on rolling tires at freeway speeds, either. Of course, I am = still=20 reminded of what a old/bold pilot type told me; if you land properly, = you should=20 have enough room to stop/bump the prop properly and roll off or go = around and on=20 to some place with adequate room. The wing tip taught me you can't = necessarily=20 roll on out of it; and, the prop taught me that the run off area can be = sort of=20 soft, too. Maybe, he just didn't seem to understand some things in this = day and=20 age land a little hotter than cubs and need brakes, I guess; or, maybe = he just=20 didn't land at all the right places. <g>
jofarr, soddy
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From:=20 wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 = 4:37 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake = Line=20 Incident Photos

If your truck bottoms out yoou rarely crash. If one brake fails = you are=20 sure to crash. Jofarr, if my kit has the nylon stuff in it I'll = GIVE=20 it you. It will not be used on my plane, period.  This = is not=20 an area to scrimp.
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