X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1020921 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:34:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-065-188-083-049.carolina.res.rr.com [65.188.83.49]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j5ONXpL5005655 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101c57915$2f334350$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:33:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C578F3.A7F478D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C578F3.A7F478D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the aluminum wheel was protected by the steel rotor between the = fire and the aluminum wheel hub. In fact, I could even reuse the inner = tube. Might could have also used the tire, however, it was a bit = puckered and decided it just wasn't worth the risk. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kenpowell@comcast.net=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos No, I meant the wheel itself. Is it save? =20 Ken Powell=20 Bryant, Arkansas=20 501-847-4721=20 C150 / RV-4 -------------- Original message --------------=20 Not certain to which aluminum you are referring, Ken.=20 If you are referring to the wing skin, my best guesstimate is - no. = The paint was sooted but not burnt and when I tapped the skin with a = small coin, I got the same tone from the unaffected wing's panel as I = did from the one over the fire, so believe the temper of the metal was = unaffected. However, I suspect if the fire had gone on much longer, the = story would have been much different. Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kenpowell@comcast.net=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Hi Ed, Did the wheel get hot enough to affect the strength of the = aluminum? Ken Powell=20 Bryant, Arkansas=20 501-847-4721=20 C150 / RV-4 -------------- Original message --------------=20 For those interested (and may not have seen them) , here are a = few photos of my brake line fire incident. Big chunk got blown out of brake line as can be seen from = Brakelines.jpg photo. Effect of resin burning seen on wheel pant = photos. Once the line broke, the next time I depressed the brake pedal, = a fireball from the wheel to over the wing resulted from spraying the = hydraulic fluid over the hot brake assembly. The flash point of the = fluid is only 240F! I am going to investigate some stuff with a bit = higher flash point {:>) Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C578F3.A7F478D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, the aluminum wheel was protected by the = steel rotor=20 between the fire and the aluminum wheel hub. In fact, I could even = reuse=20 the inner tube. Might could have also used the tire, however, it = was a bit=20 puckered and decided it just wasn't worth the risk.

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 kenpowell@comcast.net
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 = 4:59 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake = Line=20 Incident Photos

No, I meant the wheel itself. Is it save?

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
C150 /=20 RV-4

--------------=20 Original message --------------

Not certain to which aluminum you are = referring,=20 Ken.

If you are referring to the wing skin, = my best=20 guesstimate is - no. The paint was sooted but not burnt = and when=20 I tapped the skin with a small coin, I got the same tone from the = unaffected=20 wing's panel as I did from the one over the fire, so believe the = temper of=20 the metal was unaffected. However, I suspect if the fire had = gone on=20 much longer, the story would have been much different.

Ed A

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 kenpowell@comcast.net =
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 = 12:52=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Brake Line=20 Incident Photos

Hi Ed,

Did the wheel get hot enough to affect the strength of the=20 aluminum?

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
C150 = /=20 RV-4

--------------=20 Original message --------------

For those interested (and may not have = seen them)=20 , here are a few photos of my brake line fire = incident.

Big chunk got blown out of brake = line as=20 can be seen from Brakelines.jpg photo. Effect of resin = burning=20 seen on wheel pant photos. Once the line broke, the next = time I=20 depressed the brake pedal, a fireball from the wheel to over the = wing=20 resulted from spraying the hydraulic fluid over the hot brake=20 assembly. The flash point of the fluid is only 240F! = I am=20 going to investigate some stuff with a bit higher flash point=20 {:>)

Ed

Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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