X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.209] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with SMTP id 1020873 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:02:34 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.209; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: (qmail 77171 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 22:01:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@65.70.248.228 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 22:01:44 -0000 Message-ID: <0e3201c57908$467ca400$6401a8c0@ip.net> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Cc: "RV-list" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E2F_01C578DE.5C4F4960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E2F_01C578DE.5C4F4960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Ed. "Hindsight" my hind foot! Us aviators are ALWAYS "looking = forward" . . . to preventing further occurances of preventable accidents = (Air Force safety jargon?). Sincerely, you are "breaking new ground" in the area of brakes. (no = double pun intended on breaking a brake line?) I've always known I'd = never use plastic brake line (many have, and have melted them and lost = brakes during/after high speed taxi practice or hard braking on = landing). You have just drawn a perfect conclusion from yet another "brink of = disaster but saved by the grace of God" event (God MUST love you = greatly!!): Aluminum does have crummy fatigue life. So maybe I'll get = some automotive steel brake line to fit or adapt to my Cleveland = aircraft brakes. David ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos David, it was aluminum tubing which is what's called for on the RV-6A = brake system. However, in hindsight - thinking about the low fatigue = life of flexing aluminum, I think there are better choices. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Carter=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Ed, what kind of brake line was that? David ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Brake Line Incident Photos For those interested (and may not have seen them) , here are a few = photos of my brake line fire incident. Big chunk got blown out of brake line as can be seen from = Brakelines.jpg photo. Effect of resin burning seen on wheel pant = photos. Once the line broke, the next time I depressed the brake pedal, = a fireball from the wheel to over the wing resulted from spraying the = hydraulic fluid over the hot brake assembly. The flash point of the = fluid is only 240F! I am going to investigate some stuff with a bit = higher flash point {:>) Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0E2F_01C578DE.5C4F4960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Ed.  "Hindsight" my hind = foot!  Us=20 aviators are ALWAYS "looking forward" . . . to preventing further = occurances of=20 preventable accidents (Air Force safety jargon?).
 
Sincerely, you are "breaking new = ground" in the=20 area of brakes.  (no double pun intended on breaking a brake=20 line?)  I've always known I'd never use plastic brake line (many = have, and=20 have melted them and lost brakes during/after high speed taxi practice = or hard=20 braking on landing).
 
You have just drawn a perfect = conclusion from yet=20 another "brink of disaster but saved by the grace of God" event (God = MUST love=20 you greatly!!):  Aluminum does have crummy fatigue life.  So = maybe=20 I'll get some automotive steel brake line to fit or adapt to my = Cleveland=20 aircraft brakes.
 
David
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:18 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident = Photos

David, it was aluminum tubing which is what's = called for=20 on the RV-6A brake system.  However, in hindsight - thinking = about the=20 low fatigue life of flexing aluminum, I think there are better=20 choices.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Carter
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 = 9:04 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake = Line=20 Incident Photos

Ed, what kind of brake line was=20 that?
 
David
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:58 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Brake Line Incident = Photos

For those interested (and may not have seen = them) , here=20 are a few photos of my brake line fire incident.
 
  Big chunk got blown out of brake line = as can be=20 seen from Brakelines.jpg photo.  Effect of resin burning seen on = wheel=20 pant photos.  Once the line broke, the next time I depressed the = brake=20 pedal, a fireball from the wheel to over the wing resulted from = spraying the=20 hydraulic fluid over the hot brake assembly.  The flash point of = the=20 fluid is only 240F!  I am going to investigate some stuff with a = bit=20 higher flash point {:>)
 
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered
Matthews,=20 NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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