X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1008322 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:19:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A109B3583C4 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25291-14-65 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-93-70.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.93.70]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5B63583A9 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42B76AFE.1090609@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:18:54 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Position (was Re: Makingprogress on Chris n Dave's Velocity Engine) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-0, 06/20/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net But wouldn't that be true of ANY injectors placed a significant distance from the block? I think carb ice is pretty much always associated with fuel sprayed into a venturi, and the injectors in our application are always downstream of the "venturi" formed by the partially open throttle. I wouldn't worry ... Jim S. david mccandless wrote: > On PL's recent PP dyno run, he stated that with the injectors > placed near the entry of the runners, there was considerable > evaporative cooling taking place and as the tubes were running > very cold VE should be good. The worry to me here is that with the > TB at the other end of the runner,ie close to the port, there is a > real risk of ice build up on the throttle body butterfly. The old > bugbear of carb ice is back. FWIW, Dave McC > > > since the > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Jerry Hey > > based on Paul Lamar's current p port testing there is no > problem with placing the injectors at the far end of the > runners. This is also backed up by an article on the internet > (How to Fabricate an Intake Manifold) The idle issue is not > with injector location but rather with butterfly location. > >