Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #22283
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Seized 13b
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:17:52 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I certainly agree, Bill,  and have said so many times - even a small change  can spell problems or if you don't really understand what a particular subsystem is doing or how it functions, what problems it may be susceptible to.  Any leak in the suction side (for what ever reason) and you are going to problems getting oil pressure up quickly.   The rotary can fly at least for a while with a cooked engine (coolant /pump loss), but lost of lubrication will cause it to seize quickly  like any other mechanical device not properly lubricated.  One small crack or pin hole in the welding of an oil pickup tube is all it takes to cause a problem.
 
The bottom line is if your system does not show oil pressure within 1-2 seconds (or less)  after firing the engine, then I for one would immediately find out why and fix the problem.  While the rotary bearings can apparently take quite a bit of abuse based on Lynn's experience - every start with inadequate oil pressure is (in my opinion) one start closer to a possible bearing failure.
 
 
Additionally, there is some indication that the combination of the positive pump pressure pulses and the high oil pressure of the pump (which apparently can approach peaks of 156 psi- based the rating of oil controller (not regulator) trip point) can cause oil coolers of less than a robust design to fatigue and spring leaks.  If you look at the stock RX-7 cooler and compare it to a number of automotive oil cooler you can immediately see that the stock cooler is   heavy and robustly built - one would presume for a good reason.  There are non-rotary oil coolers that would appear to be constructed to the same standard - mostly build for the racers - which would probably work just fine.  However, many of the less expensive oil coolers are of a less robust construction.  I initially used one of EARLS oil coolers of considerably less robust construction and while I flew almost 60 hours with it - I am very glad (knowing what I now know) to have switched to the stock oil cooler.
 
 
Ed A
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 1:40 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Seized 13b

In a message dated 5/21/2005 12:35:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
Wait Bill, I am not certain if you are referring to MY oil system or what I reported on from Andy on HIS oil system{:>).
Ed please rest assured I didn't mean YOUR  system. Rather that of the engine that seized!
Please know also that I don't mean to infer that plugs up can't be done well. I do believe that many people don't understand the extent of what they are taking on and when making the changeover.
Bill Jepson
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