Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #22199
From: David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: More MAP measurement questions
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:20:44 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I hate to differ, but I think this is incorrect. Grounding at both ends is what would create a problem. When I attended an EAA technical seminar a while back, We were told NOT to ground at both ends.
 
Dave

Joseph M Berki wrote:
Hi John,
        I have been tracking your progress on the EC2.  One thing about using shielded cables.  Both ends need to be grounded and do not use the shield as a conductor for any function.  Data running in adjacent cables can be corrupted by currents in cables next      to them.  If the shields are not grounded at both ends you have created an antenna.  Good luck.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
fixing strake leading edges



At 09:58 AM 5/20/2005 -0400, John Slade wrote:
Here's another question - having little knowledge in the area, I'm considering Tracy's ECU and the EM2.
What are your appreciations of the products.
 
Hi George,
I've had horrendous problems getting the EM2/EC2 working. Much, if not all, of the problems have probably been to do with my wiring, not RTFM properly (ie grounding the wrong wire), not using shielded cable for everything, not mounting the Program Control Module properly, long cable runs, etc. etc. After many many months of sporadic results, I'm still fighting with it. I have 30 hours on the plane, and I have to say that despite all these issues, the EC2 has never let me down in flight. Hiccupped, yes, but silence - never. My wiring harness tests out perfectly, but still no joy. The EC2 won't communicate with the EM2, and won't trigger a spark. I'll be doing a definitive test later today by doing what I should have done months ago, and installing my EC2 in Buly's identically configured airplane. THEN we'll know.
 
Despite the severe frustration and delay caused by all this, I really HATE to consider the alternative of an aftermarket ECU like the Microtech where installing redundancy will be a real bear and the total solution will be a lot more expensive and complex (read fault prone). I'd also prefer to continue supporting Tracy's efforts for the benefit of rotary aviation in general. I think he'd rather be rid of me, but I just aint going away. :)
 
On the EM2, I much prefer analog input for quick glance confirmation and trend info, but its well worth the cost and panel space to have ALL the data available when you have time to study it, the graphic access to the EC2 MAP data, and the range warnings working for you in the background. I installed 6 analog engine gauges (coolant temp & pressure, oil temp & pressure, MAP and Fuel pressure) alongside the EM2 which allow me to do a scan and also confirm calibration / sensor failure.  The promised autotune and data-logging features of the EM2 will be worth the cost on their own.
 
One advantage some of the aftermarket units apparently have is a built-in timing split to help avoid detonation with turbo installations (a subject very close to my heart and wallet). Tracy has promised to add this feature, but he's busy with a lot of stuff so I don't know when that'll happen. This isn't an issue for NA people.
 
All issues considered, if I were doing it again, I'd buy the EM2/EC2 combination in an injection pulse width. (rotary equivalent of a New York second).
 
John (desperately hoping my EC2 fires up Buly's engine, but fueling up my car in case it doesn't)
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