X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 947979 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:52:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.164; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.68]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807C03646CB for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20678-11-32 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-82-124.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.82.124]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF68B36471E for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <428A7590.8080501@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:52:00 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0520-1, 05/17/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net We have NO reliable information. A canard [with an engine failure] trying to turn back to the runway and running out of airspeed might look EXACTLY like it "spiraled in". Rudders provide a LOT of roll authority. Paul is together enough to know that nobody on Unicom would be in a position to help him so radio transmissions would likely amount to needless distraction. Could we hold off on speculation until: A. We have some even vaguely reliable information B. Some assurance that Paul's survivors are no longer subscribed. As a courtesy to the family if nothing else ... Jim S. Bulent Aliev wrote: >Another point: We don't know if he declared an emergency. By the information >we have there was no transmission of any kind. He is an experienced pilot >and he had the time to do so? Also the canards do not spiral to the ground >unless there is a control input or faulty controls. >Buly > >On 5/17/05 2:28 PM, "Dale Rogers" wrote: > > > >>>From: wrjjrs@aol.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >>>... The discription of events didn't, that is DID NOT sound like an engine >>>failure. It sounded more like a rigging or structural failure. >>> >>> >> Wasn't it Paul who expressed concern about the proximity >>of the aileron controls to the accessory belts, and what >>might happen if the belt came off? >> >> "Spiraled in" doesn't sound like just an engine failure. >> >>Dale R. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > >