Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 880574 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:55:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j3H1sh0W009242 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000e01c542f0$7420ad50$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:54:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C542CE.ECAFAF40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C542CE.ECAFAF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FlyRotary] New rotors, New housingsHi Ken, I really, really have no interest in running for your title, believe = me! {:>). I am inclined to agree that milling out the slot may indeed = take you pass some metal hardening that lessens the wear. While I must = admit that I am still a bit skeptical about the dust doing it to me in = 150 hours, I think the rotors had been run hard when I got them but just = didn't know what to check for. But, in any case I am going to add a = filter figuring it probably won't hurt. Besides, If I didn't add a = filter and something happened again, I'd never hear the end of it from = my friend, Leon. New rotors and housing are ordered. I figured depending on how Jerry = Hey and his PP project turns out, I might use them to practice cutting = PP port and then turn two of my good NA housings into PP housings - down = the road. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Welter=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings I would look into getting 85-85 GSELE rotors with the 3 mm seals, = you would also need the weights to match them, then machine out your = rotors for a spare engine, you may need one to bale you out in the = future, if you keep this up you may knock me off the seat as president = of the dead stick club. I am now running rotors machined out to 3 mm seals and at about 400 = hrs on them I can tell by checking through the exhaust port that the = seal grooves are getting V'ed out and getting sloppy so I am now putting = another engine together, on this one the rotors are in prime shape so I = think I will run Tracy's 2mm seals. Also I think that the groves may be hardened and by machining the = groves out makes them softer as they shouldn't have worn out in only 400 = hrs. Ken Well, the decision has been made. Thanks in part to the wife's = continued interest in my warm body on cold winter nights, the decision = has been made to purchase new rotors and rotor housings. $$ but = apparently I am worth it {:>) I looked into milling out the slots to 3mm and that would have been = the cheaper approach - but cheap approach is probably partly responsible = for me being in this situation - so going to try a different approach = this time. Besides leery of using a rotor which clearly has been = subjected to sufficient loads to scrape metal off its surface and peen = over apex slot. In the process of getting quotes. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C542CE.ECAFAF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FlyRotary] New rotors, New housings
Hi Ken,
 
I really, really have no interest in = running for=20 your title,  believe me! {:>).  I am inclined to agree = that=20 milling out the slot may indeed take you pass some metal hardening that = lessens=20 the wear.  While I must admit that I am still a bit skeptical about = the=20 dust doing it to me in 150 hours, I think the rotors had been run hard = when I=20 got them but just didn't know what to check for.  But, in any case = I am=20 going to add a filter figuring it probably won't = hurt.  Besides, If I=20 didn't add a filter and something happened again, I'd never hear the end = of it=20 from my friend, Leon.
 
New rotors and housing are = ordered.  I figured=20 depending on how Jerry Hey and his PP project turns out, I might use = them to=20 practice cutting  PP port and then turn two of my good NA housings = into PP=20 housings - down the road.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20 Welter
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 = 4:40=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New = rotors, New=20 housings

  I would look into getting 85-85 GSELE rotors with the 3 mm = seals,=20 you would also need the weights to match them, then machine out your = rotors=20 for a spare engine, you may need one to bale you out in the future, if = you=20 keep this up you may knock me off the seat as president of the dead = stick=20 club.
  I am now running rotors machined out to 3 mm seals and at = about=20 400 hrs on them I can tell by checking through the exhaust port that = the seal=20 grooves are getting V'ed out and getting sloppy so I am now putting = another=20 engine together, on this one the rotors are in prime shape so I think = I will=20 run Tracy's 2mm seals.
 Also I think that the groves may be hardened and by = machining the=20 groves out makes them softer as they shouldn't have worn out in only = 400=20 hrs.
  Ken



Well, = the decision=20 has been made.  Thanks in part to the wife's continued interest = in my=20 warm body on  cold winter nights, the decision has been made to = purchase new rotors and rotor housings.  $$ but apparently I am = worth=20 it {:>)
 
I = looked into=20 milling out the slots to 3mm and that would have been the cheaper = approach -=20 but cheap approach is probably partly responsible for me being in = this=20 situation - so going to try a different approach this time.  = Besides=20 leery of using a rotor which clearly has been subjected to = sufficient loads=20 to scrape metal off its surface and peen over apex = slot.
 
In = the process of=20 getting quotes.
 
Ed
 
Ed=20 Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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