Return-Path: Received: from email2k3.itlnet.net ([64.19.112.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 828576 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:46:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.19.112.12; envelope-from=jwvoto@itlnet.net Received: from rav.itlnet.net (unverified [192.168.10.149]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:46:12 -0600 Received: from JWVOTO (unverified [64.19.114.133]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:46:10 -0600 Message-ID: <002101c53477$05917ae0$85721340@JWVOTO> From: "Wendell Voto" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Flow Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:49:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C53444.9432B9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C53444.9432B9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageRusty and all who are trying to help,=20 Thanks a bunch.=20 The engine is a rebuild and set for about 2 years. After the discussion = about the oil pump drive shaft key, I pulled the front cover off and = checked for proper placement of the key and all looked ok. I didn't have = much hope on it pulling up oil on first attempt and it didn't. So after = priming it with oil, it just pushed out the priming oil and no more. = Took off pan, cleaned out Halomar and made new thicker gasket, = reassembled and primed again. Got bunch of oil and as previously stated = it just didn't seem consistent after a few tries. Would pump as long as = I dared to keep starter going when I was getting flow, and was surprised = that the starter didn't even get warm to the touch. Regular Mazda = starters must be hefty. Rusty, I think I'll go ahead and try a full start as soon as I can get a = good oil pressure gauge set up.=20 Thanks guys,=20 Wendell (still all oily) Hi Wendell, I've done the starter thing on a few occasions now, and have always = been able to eventually get pressure, but I can't say I ever checked it = multiple times, so I don't know if it's normal to come and go like = you're describing. It doesn't seem normal, but cranking speed is pretty = slow, and it does take a while to move oil at that speed. Basically, = after I got pressure for a few seconds, I considered it ready to crank. = Is this a fresh engine that was just rebuilt? In other words, it's = still full of assembly lube?? If so, I think I'd go ahead with the = first start, and just watch the oil pressure. I would expect to see = pressure quickly, within 5 seconds or so (which will seem like an = eternity). That's just what I would do, which certainly doesn't make it = right :-) Good luck, Rusty (Raven on order) ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C53444.9432B9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Rusty and all who are trying to help,

Thanks a bunch.

The engine is a rebuild and set for about 2 years. After the = discussion about=20 the oil pump drive shaft key, I pulled the front cover off and checked = for=20 proper placement of the key and all looked ok. I didn't have much hope = on it=20 pulling up oil on first attempt and it didn't. So after priming it with = oil, it=20 just pushed out the priming oil and no more. Took off pan, cleaned out = Halomar=20 and made new thicker gasket, reassembled and primed again. Got bunch of = oil and=20 as previously stated it just didn't seem consistent after a few tries. = Would=20 pump as long as I dared to keep starter going when I was getting flow, = and was=20 surprised that the starter didn't even get warm to the touch. =  Regular=20 Mazda starters must be hefty.

Rusty, I think I'll go ahead and try a full start as soon as I can = get a good=20 oil pressure gauge set up.

Thanks guys,

Wendell (still all oily)

 
 Hi=20 Wendell,

I've done the starter thing on a few occasions now, and have = always=20 been able to eventually get pressure, but I can't say I ever checked = it=20 multiple times, so I don't know if it's normal to come and go like = you're=20 describing.  It doesn't seem normal, but cranking speed is pretty = slow,=20 and it does take a while to move oil at that = speed.  Basically,=20 after I got pressure for a few seconds, I considered it ready to = crank. =20

Is this a fresh engine that was just rebuilt?  In other = words,=20 it's still full of assembly lube??  If so, I think I'd go ahead = with the=20 first start, and just watch the oil pressure.  I would expect to = see=20 pressure quickly, within 5 seconds or so (which will seem like an=20 eternity).  That's just what I would do, which certainly doesn't = make it=20 right :-)

Good luck,

Rusty (Raven on = order)

 

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