Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #18787
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: SAG Report
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:12:42 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hard to say, John.  I have had surges both ways but they were mainly due to the fact my fuel map is somewhat uneven.  So changes in rpm or manifold pressure change the operational area to a point in the map where it either gets an enrichment (more power) or a leaning (less power).  Also, when an SAG event clears up you certainly get a surge as the rotors starts producing normal power again.
 
If you hit a "rich" spot in the fuel map, it would cause an increase in power, an increase in RPM, but not certain why it would cause a drop in manifold pressure - unless the higher rpms happened quickly enough (sucked the manifold pressure down) before the turbine wheel and compressor caught up.  However,  If you are using the EM2 to tailor your EC2 Fuel map then less likelihood of unevenness in the fuel map.
 
But, if it were a sparkplug "clearing up" I would think the event would be longer term.  I don't know what the symptoms would be with SAG underboost but if my speculation about the cause of SAG is correct, it should be worst and last longer.  Based on what I observed with oil and coolant temps while under SAG, I would think yours would be quite elevated.  If they are not - then doubtful you encountered SAG (yet).
 
So really don't have a better SWAG about what you may have encountered, but can understand you wanting to find that "sweet" spot again {:>)
 
Ed A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: John Slade
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SAG Report

Speaking of SAG, I had a strange experience during today's flight which might be the opposite of SAG.
 
Everything seemed normal. I was boosting about 38 MAP at 4500 rpm and 5000'. I was gently adding a little throttle to increase speed for another ASI calibration when I felt a surge of acceleration way beyond what I'd expect for the minor throttle adjustment I'd made. This was literally a shove in the back. It lasted maybe 2 seconds, then the engine carried on at the new power level. RPM jumped up a couple of hundred. I glanced down at the MAP. It had dropped to 34. My best guess is that I'd been running with a gummed up plug which suddenly cleared and gave me added power.
 
I'd appreciate any opinions on this.
Now if I could just make it happen again - and again.....
 
John (getting relaxed enough to test the airframe)
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