Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 771413 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:55:46 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net Received: from [65.176.200.212] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D7agF-0001S4-Bj for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:55:00 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=qrXEZm8GLEFEtbTHABW2k9ASxu0dvuKAlJbk7gtYdAvCAYCKf0ukq0Etftd+WEU5; Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:56:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Bill Schertz's cooling analysis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c06f620a94c61549d69bbd151102088a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.176.200.212 Bob, I like the EWPs if they will work. To build a new motor mount with a lowered thrust line using the S-beam would be a possibility if it did not cause a chain reaction of other changes. Jerry On Friday, March 4, 2005, at 09:06 PM, Bob White wrote: > > If I find that I will actually get 20 GPM with the WP136, I will figure > out how to mount them (right now they're just hanging on the hoses) and > redo all the hoses. The WP336 is the higher capacity pump and is rated > at 55 GPM, so the impeller diameter is 2.75 X. It should also create > 7.5 X the maximum head pressure which would bring it from 6 psi to 45 > psi. If I had understood how these pumps work better to start, I would > have picked the 336. I just figured 20+20=40 vs 55 was only a little > worse and I would get redundancy. > > If I were to decide not to use an EWP, I have the Paul Lamar remote > pump casting. The big downside there is building a solid bracket so > that the belts clear all the protuberances on the front cover. With > just the alternator on the side and the Racing Beat underdrive pulley > set, the bracket and clearance problem worked out real nice. > > BTW, someone asked why are we looking at EWP's. My answer is I have > almost no room between the top of the engine and the cowling, > especially at the back (front cover). Even cut down, the stock pump > still sticks up some and I just don't have the room. Jerry Hey built > my engine mount, and I probably should have had him lower my thrust > line a couple of inches. I didn't want to give up the prop clearance > and didn't forsee this problem. In addition, the stock pump is at the > top of the engine so quits working if you loose a small amount of > coolant. That was the reason I got the remote casting. The EWP will > solve these problems and be easier to mount. > > Bob W. > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 19:00:13 -0600 > "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> So are you still deciding whether to use the WP136 pumps, vs maybe the >> bigger one (can't remember the number)? I received the WP136 that I >> ordered >> today. It's a beefy pump for sure. It weighs 5 lb 2oz, where the >> Davies >> Craig (DC from now on) weighs 1 lb 11 oz. Since I wasted all >> afternoon >> waiting for DHL to decide to reschedule my FJO O2 sensor for Monday >> (grrrrrrr), I didn't get to see how it would fit on the RV-3. I >> think I >> could get two of them on there, easier than two DC pumps, but of >> course I >> don't plan any pump change until after it's flying again. >> >> Rusty (only need to add gas and oil, then turn key) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > http://www.bob-white.com > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon) > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >