Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 601882 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:14:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.131.37; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2131A1000A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37]) by filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14238-49-32 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-80-196.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.80.196]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACBBFF72 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <41E2B867.4060105@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:16:23 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: turbo EGT probes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0501-1, 01/07/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Rather than EGT probes, check around for TIT probes. Since they all reside just upstream of some turbine. one would expect them to be more robust (read expensive?) than EGT probes. At least they are intuitively more appropriate ... Jim S. David Staten wrote: > Putting the EGT after the turbo will not give true accurate results. > Some of the heat energy of the exhaust is converted to mechanical > energy and the tailpipe gases are of a lower temp... I'm surmising a > few hundred degrees less.. One of the turbo calculator spreadsheets > that was making the rounds actually displayed this Delta T as one of > its calcs. > > Now, I DONT know if the relationships stand up "post" turbo (peak, > lean of peak, range of variance of temps).. one would think they > would.. but that is a guess on my part. > > Dave > > cardmarc@charter.net wrote: > >>Only problem is that if a tip piece of the probe breaks off, it will go thru the turbine and make a mess. Just a thought. Many people only put one probe after the turbine because of this possibility. I do not have any firsthand experience with this happening but have heard of it. >>Marc W >> >> >>>From: Bulent Aliev >>>Date: 2005/01/10 Mon AM 01:51:58 GMT >>>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>>Subject: [FlyRotary] EGT probes >>> >>>Hi Guys, >>>I removed my turbo manifold today for ceramic coating, so I want to install >>>two EGT probes, one for each rotor. I want to drill and tap into the cast >>>iron manifold about 1" away from the exhaust ports. My questions are: >>>1. Any draw backs? >>>2. Recommendations for probes that will stand up to the heat in this >>>location and will work with the EM2. >>> >>>My engine starts instantly every time. At the beginning I kept the mixture >>>knob to the center position. Any movement to the left and the engine would >>>stumble. Now I'm noticing the knob is fully to the left and it is rich. Not >>>too rich but more than before? I guess it is time to get into the >>>programming stuff? >>>I'm drawing big crowds at the airport with this engine. Today I had to put a >>>yellow rope on the hangar doors so I can work. Handed chairs to the old >>>timers, the youngins had standing room only :) >>> >>>Buly >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > >