Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #14988
From: Wendell Voto <jwvoto@itlnet.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Pump Drive Key was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Some things to check
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:21:15 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thanks Ed for the info. Will drop the oil pan and check this out.
Wendell

Wendel,  One suggestion I have is to bend a paper clip so that an leg is sticking straight out (or any other such) then insert it into the keyway.  I forget now but I think it should not go in much more than 1/4" IF the key is present, I'll check on a pump I have in the shop tomorrow.  If you find the paper clip going in more than 1/2" (I'll check tomorrow) you key is likely missing.
 
Further amplification on what Leon said about the key - it is easier than you may think to put the key in the keyway and slide the sprocket on the shaft and push the keyway out. Normally when that happens you hear the "ping" as the metal key hits the floor.  But in this case, It appears that when I push the key out the back side as I slid on the sprocket, I actually clamped the key between the sprocket and the pump housing.  The reason I am confident that is what happened is the mark of the  key was impressed into the soft aluminum housing.  The first spin of the sprocket then threw the key into the bottom of the pan.
 
Fortunately I had torqued the nut to the books specs (which many think is a bit high for that small a nut) and flew with it for 10 hours.  One evening when I was at Tracy's we were looking into the throttle bodies and I had push my throttle in all the way to open the butterfly.  Forgot to close it.  Next more was cool and when I started the engine it immediately (wide open throttle ) fired and zoomed to 5000 rpm with cold 50 weight oil.  That broke the clamp of the nut and it started to turn the sprocket faster than the shaft and actually wore a small circular place around the sprocket shaft as it rubbed against the shoulder of the shaft.
 
Tracy, Finn and I were going flying.  A very lite breeze from the north, but Tracy and Finn elected to take off to the south.  Unless an unusual situation exists, I always take off into the wind, so I elected to taxi to the south end for my up wind take off.  One the way taxing I noticed that my oil pressure was only reading 20 psi when it normally reads 30 - 50 psi.
I tried telling myself it must be a bad sensor or gauge and nothing was really wrong, but I just couldn't ignore that anomaly and decided to abort the take off and taxied back to the hangar.  Fortunate decision as I doubt the oil pressure would have stayed as high as 20 psi had I decided to fly.
 
  After much "try this, try that" it finally because apparent the engine would have to come off.
 
Tracy's is the best place in the world (other than perhaps your home hangar) to have a problem.  He had a replacement oil pump and helped me get it all back together using his hangar for my repair.  A great place to have to spend time down for repair.
 
FWIW.
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Pump Drive Key was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Some things to check

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Leon
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil Pump Drive Key was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Some things to check

Wendell,
 
Ed Anderson had a problem where the oil pump Wooodruff key wasn't in the keyway.  The drive was just taken by the friction of the tensioned nut. Worked for a while. Sooner or later,  the sprocket will slip on the shoulder of the pump shaft.  The symptom is intermittent loss of oil pressure,  which gets worse as the sprocket wears on the shaft shoulder.
 
So,  as I said in the post below,  always make sure that the key is actually in the keyway before fitting to nut & lockwasher.  The key itself is very tiny,  and it requires a bit of juggling to get it in the keyway in the sprocket.  I normally gently stake the keyway in the shaft so that the key can't slip out.
 
Hope this makes sense!
 
Leon
Thanks Leon, can proper installation be checked by inspection or do you have to remove the pump and start over?
Wendell
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