Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:46:33 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <13brv3@mchsi.com> Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.184] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b1) with ESMTP id 2087435 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:42:36 -0500 Received: from rad ([12.218.74.116]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030326184233.UVAB8681.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@rad> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:42:33 +0000 Reply-To: <13brv3@mchsi.com> From: <13brv3@mchsi.com> X-Original-To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: AN16 hose fitting question X-Original-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:42:26 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c2f3c7$759a1970$0201a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2F395.2B021A70" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2F395.2B021A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone who commented. There's certainly a solution here somewhere.=20 You can get an AN16 male fitting that will bolt to the thermostate holes (if you have an engine with the two bolts rather than the 3 = bolts). The are the AN16 fittings designed for a Chevy engine. Here is the URL = of one similar to mine (mine does not swivel) http://www.csiperformance.com/cooling2.html That is what I use with a gasket between the AN16 fitting and the the thermostat housing. =20 --- You lost me Ed. The page you listed shows a perfect solution, part number 911AN16, but I'm sure this won't have the correct bolt pattern. = I just took my pump housing down to the local race shop, and watched the = poot guy try to match it with every housing on the shelf. This would = certainly cover all the common applications. I sent an email to CSI, with the = bolt pattern, so we'll see if they can come up with anything. What didn't I understand about your post :-)=20 Also, the 1986 water pump inlet tube is just the right inside = diameter that you can use an AN16 or JCS tap and cut threads inside the tube. = Then you can screw a AN16/AN16 adapter into the water pump inlet tube (with a soft aluminum washer around the AN16 fitting. That way you end up with = two AN16 fittings on each end of your pump. You might be able to rent such = a tap, however they tend to use a JCS designation instead of AN. I = borrowed one from old man Lou Ross and don't have one myslef which is why I don't change my water pump housing to a later model {:>) --- Now this must be where I heard this before. It was difficult to = find a tap, but McMaster Carr has them. It looks like AN16 is a 1-5/16" -12 thread. The tap is about $70, but I'll probably order one today, and = you can borrow it when you feel like changing your housing. The thermostat housing is just a bit smaller in diameter, but would probably still be = able to be tapped in the same manner. I may give it a try, since I have an = old corroded one laying around. =20 I make one inch pipe to AN adaptors to convert the thermostat and=20 water pump. The thermostat adaptor comes in two versions, one if you are = using a thermostat and one if you are not. You can view them on my web = site=20 www.j-winddesigns.com The = thermostat adaptor also lowers the outlet a couple=20 of precious inches. You will also need same fittings on the swirl pot.=20 =20 --- Jerry, The picture on your site is the one without the thermostat, right? How much taller is the one with the thermostat? Can you email = me a picture? These are threaded to 1" female pipe correct? I believe this would also work out well for me. =20 Thanks again, Rusty 13brv3@mchsi.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2F395.2B021A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Thanks to = everyone who=20 commented.  There's certainly a solution here=20 somewhere. 

     You can get an AN16 male = fitting that=20 will bolt to the thermostate holes (if you have an engine with the two = bolts=20 rather than the 3 bolts). The are the AN16 fittings designed for a Chevy = engine.=20 Here is the URL of one similar to mine (mine does not swivel) http://www.csiperfor= mance.com/cooling2.html
That=20 is what I use with a gasket between the AN16 fitting and the the = thermostat=20 housing.

 
--- You = lost me=20 Ed.  The page you listed shows a perfect solution, part number = 911AN16, but=20 I'm sure this won't have the correct bolt pattern.  I just took my = pump=20 housing down to the local race shop, and watched the poot guy try to = match it=20 with every housing on the shelf.  This would certainly cover = all the=20 common applications.  I sent an email to CSI, with the bolt = pattern, so=20 we'll see if they can come up with anything.  What didn't I = understand=20 about your post :-) 


    Also, the 1986 water pump inlet tube is just = the right=20 inside diameter that you can use an AN16 or JCS tap and cut threads = inside the=20 tube.  Then you can screw a AN16/AN16 adapter into the water pump = inlet=20 tube (with a soft aluminum washer around the AN16 fitting.  That = way you=20 end up with two AN16 fittings on each end of your pump.  You might = be able=20 to rent such a tap, however they tend to use a JCS designation instead = of=20 AN.  I borrowed one from old man Lou Ross and don't have one myslef = which=20 is why I don't change my water pump housing to a later model {:>)

--- Now this must be = where I heard this=20 before.  It was difficult to find a tap, but McMaster Carr has = them. =20 It looks like AN16 is a 1-5/16" -12 thread.  The tap is about $70, = but I'll=20 probably order one today, and you can borrow it when you feel like = changing your=20 housing.   The thermostat housing is just a bit smaller in = diameter,=20 but would probably still be able to be tapped in the same manner.  = I may=20 give it a try, since I have an old corroded one laying around.  =

I make one inch pipe to AN adaptors to convert = the=20 thermostat and
water pump. The thermostat adaptor comes in two = versions,=20 one if you are
using a thermostat and one if you are not. You = can view=20 them on my web site
www.j-winddesigns.com = The=20 thermostat adaptor also lowers the outlet a couple
of precious inches. You will also need same = fittings on=20 the swirl pot.
 
--- Jerry, The picture = on your site=20 is the one without the thermostat, right?  How much taller is the = one with=20 the thermostat?  Can you email me a picture?  These are = threaded to 1"=20 female pipe correct?  I believe this would also work out well for=20 me.
 
Thanks = again,
Rusty
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