Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 04:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b1) with ESMTP id 2085537 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 02:01:08 -0500 Received: from mtiwebc37 (unknown[204.127.135.76]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003032507010811100rh1p1e>; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:01:08 +0000 Received: from [12.86.94.74] by mtiwebc37; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:01:06 +0000 From: keltro@att.net X-Original-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Thick or Thin? X-Original-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:01:06 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 25 2002) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= X-Original-Message-ID: > > Hi All, > > > > Would someone please help me better understand the physics involved > with this? > > > > It appears to me that, especially given the airspeeds we're talking > about, as long as there is significant temperature differential between the > air and the tube/fin at the trailing end of the air path, the radiator is > working. > > Isn't it the case that our biggest concerns with thick cores are (1) > saturation of the airstream, (2) weight per transferred BTU, (3) drag? > > > > So, for a given transfer rate, one might expect a thick core radiatior > to be heavier than a thin one, but offer less drag. If the load due to > additional weight is less than the drag of the lighter thin core, aren't we > ahead? > > > > Dale > > Your observations are correct Dale, but in reality the weigh factor is > insignificant. Of course there is a limiting factor on how far we can go > with thick rads. At some point there is not enough dynamic pressure to push > enough air through a very thick rad to carry away the required BTUs, even if > the air is heated to the theoretical limit equal to (almost) the coolant > temperature. An airplane flying at 200 MPH has a lot of dynamic pressure > potential so the limit is relatively high (compared to passenger cars). > > It is worth noting that the dynamic pressure at only 120 mph is enough to > support the weight of your body. 120 MPH is the terminal velocity of a sky > diver in free fall. > > Tracy Crook > Well put Tracy! I agree as I have practical experience in free-fall. Kelly Troyer