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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's nightmare
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:02:39 -0400
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MessageOk! I can do that - even got a supply of valve lapping compound - =
although its from the days or reciprocating engines, seems to be less =
use for it these days {:>). =20
Appreciate the tip, I know I won't need it. Rusty is just trying to get =
me discourage so I won't give him a decent race. By the way, are folks =
thinking about heading to SERFI this October?
Ed
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tracy Crook=20
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's nightmare
There's a 50 - 50 (or better ) chance that it will fit as is, but if =
lapping is necessary, it is done by brushing valve lapping compound on =
the splined parts and engaging & disengaging the splined parts using =
rubber mallet or other non destructive method to work the parts into =
shape. This is what I do here to mate a Ford damper spline that happens =
to be on the small end of the spec to an input shaft.
Tracy
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ed Anderson=20
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:36 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's nightmare
Arrggg! Not good news! Have not yet tried to fit the new shaft =
into the splines - its going to be even more of task to removing my =
mounting plate as it is integrated with my front motor mount. Where did =
I put that sand paper??
You're right no - new dampener plate. Lap the splines? Was it the =
outside diameter that was too large or the teeth? If the Out side =
diameter then lapping it might be the route to go for me - if you mean =
each individual spline then - I think I want my B drive back (not - =
really). =20
Well, I was going to wait until next weekend to get started, but now =
I have to run out to the hanger during the week to see if the drive =
shaft will fit. Thanks for the heads-up, Rusty
Ed
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Russell Duffy=20
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Ed's nightmare
Greetings,
I had a pretty productive day at the Rev-3 work session. The main =
thing remaining is the spinner cutouts, which will be a new experience =
for me, since I've somehow managed to always have spinners that were =
pre-cut. Man that's one serious looking prop :-)
Ed, I either lost a few hours to you, or gained a few days (or =
more). My plan was to replace only the drive, and not remove the plate =
or anything else. Unfortunately, my new input shaft wouldn't fit in the =
old dampener splines. It was just too tight to try to make it go. Sure =
enough, the old input shaft was a fairly loose fit in the new dampener =
plate, so there is a difference. I ended up having to drain the cooling =
system, remove the rads, remove the plate, and replace the dampener =
plate. This was only a couple hour delay for me, but if your new input =
shaft doesn't fit your old dampener plate, you're screwed, since you =
don't have a new dampener plate. =20
I called Tracy, and he said Ford wasn't all that precise over the =
years, and that it sounded like my old plate was on the tight side, and =
the new plate was more normal. He chose to make the C drive input =
shafts a snug fit, so it just won't work with my old dampener plate. I =
hope you have better luck. He said it was possible to lap the splines =
to fit, but wouldn't be worth the trouble for me, since I already had a =
new one to install. The old one, being tight, is a better fit for my =
old B drive anyway, so they might as well stay together. The B drive is =
going to be for sale, BTW. =20
Cheers,
Rusty (should be running, if not flying by Monday)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ok! I can do that - even got a supply of valve =
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compound - although its from the days or reciprocating engines, seems to =
be less=20
use for it these days {:>). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Appreciate the tip, I know I won't need it. =
Rusty is just=20
trying to get me discourage so I won't give him a decent race. By =
the way,=20
are folks thinking about heading to SERFI this October?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Ed Anderson<BR>RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered<BR>Matthews, NC</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dlors01@msn.com href=3D"mailto:lors01@msn.com">Tracy =
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<DIV>There's a 50 - 50 (or better ) chance that it will fit as =
is, but=20
if lapping is necessary, it is done by brushing valve lapping compound =
on the=20
splined parts and engaging & disengaging the splined parts using =
rubber=20
mallet or other non destructive method to work the parts into =
shape. =20
This is what I do here to mate a Ford damper spline that happens =
to be on=20
the small end of the spec to an input shaft.</DIV>
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<DIV>Tracy</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com">Ed Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net=20
href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">Rotary motors in =
aircraft</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 14, =
2004 11:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's =
nightmare</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Arrggg! Not good news! =
Have not yet=20
tried to fit the new shaft into the splines - its going to be even =
more of=20
task to removing my mounting plate as it is integrated with my front =
motor=20
mount. Where did I put that sand paper??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're right no - new =
dampener=20
plate. Lap the splines? Was it the outside diameter that =
was too=20
large or the teeth? If the Out side diameter then lapping it =
might be=20
the route to go for me - if you mean each individual spline =
then=20
- I think I want my B drive back (not - really). =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, I was going to wait until =
next weekend to=20
get started, but now I have to run out to the hanger during the week =
to see=20
if the drive shaft will fit. Thanks for the heads-up,=20
Rusty</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Ed Anderson<BR>RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered<BR>Matthews, =
NC</DIV>
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<A title=3Dmailto:13brv3@bellsouth.net=20
href=3D"mailto:13brv3@bellsouth.net">Russell Duffy</A> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">Rotary motors in =
aircraft</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 14, =
2004 11:09=20
PM</DIV>
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nightmare</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT face=3DArial>I had a =
pretty=20
productive day at the Rev-3 work session. The main =
thing=20
remaining is the spinner cutouts, which will be a new experience =
for me,=20
since I've somehow managed to always have spinners that were=20
pre-cut. Man that's one serious looking prop =
:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT face=3DArial>Ed, I =
either lost a=20
few hours to you, or gained a few days (or more). My plan=20
was to replace only the drive, and not remove the plate or =
anything=20
else. Unfortunately, my new input shaft wouldn't fit in the =
old=20
dampener splines. It was just too tight to try to =
make=20
it go. Sure enough, the old input shaft was a fairly =
loose fit=20
in the new dampener plate, so there is a difference. I ended =
up=20
having to drain the cooling system, remove the rads, =
remove the=20
plate, and replace the dampener plate. This was only a =
couple hour=20
delay for me, but if your new input shaft doesn't fit your old=20
dampener plate, you're screwed, since you don't have a =
new=20
dampener plate. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT =
face=3DArial>I called Tracy,=20
and he said Ford wasn't all that precise over the years, =
and=20
that it sounded like my old plate was on the tight side, and =
the new=20
plate was more normal. He chose to make the C =
drive input=20
shafts a snug fit, so it just won't work with my old dampener=20
plate. I hope you have better=20
luck. He said it was possible to lap the =
splines=20
to fit, but wouldn't be worth the trouble for me, since I =
already had=20
a new one to install. The old one, being tight, is a =
better fit=20
for my old B drive anyway, so they might as well stay =
together. The=20
B drive is going to be for sale, =
BTW. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890175602-15082004><FONT face=3DArial>Rusty =
(should be=20
running, if not flying by=20
=
Monday)</FONT> </SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQ=
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