Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.234]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA10243 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:03:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981022000129.00d489d8@olsusa.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:01:29 -0400 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Douglas L. Dodson, Jr." <73773.1546@compuserve.com> (by way of Marvin Kaye ) Subject: Fuel tank vents X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: Marvin Kaye >> venting his wing tanks from the outboard high point back into the fuselage and then into a semi-circular loop up his seat backs... the actual vent drain line was plumbed in via a tee fitting at the apex of the loop on the seat backs and out the bottom of the fuselage. It seems to me that this arrangement would nicely address the issue of draining fuel overboard when parked on a non-level ramp. Other than the extensive distance from the outboard end of the tanks back to the fuselage, what problems do any of you see with this venting scheme?<< All true, but you will need a drain fitting at the low point of the vent lines. They will trap some fuel/water/sediment and need to be kept clear. >>Along a similar vein, rather than venting the header tank directly to the outside, why can't you vent it back to the wing tanks? << Your connected selector valve setup is mechanically complicated but not impossible to build. You must account for the possibility of the header tank sucking/blowing air and fuel into and out of each tank as temperature and altitude changes. It will probably work just fine, but carefully check for conditions where vent ports are submerged on either end and make sure each chamber has a way to the atmosphere with minimal restriction under all fueling combinations and flight attitudes. In my Glasair, the wing tank and fuselage tank are both selectable for feed. Wing tanks (really one long tank but each tip is vented) are plumbed together (downhill) then to the fuselage tank (uphill). The fuselage tank vents overboard through a separate line. I put a valve at the low point of the wing vent lines that is controllable in the cockpit. When closed, fuel can not vent overboard from the wings, it will try to go uphill into the fuselage tank. Drawing fuel from the wing tank will require some suction in the tank dead air space to pull trapped fuel up hill in the vent line and back into the tank. The valve allows me to vent the wing tanks overboard in the event I suspect fuel flow problems from the wing tank as well as allowing me to drain the trapped fuel/water/sediment periodically. I intend to fly with the valve open except perhaps when the wing tank is very nearly full and will probably keep it open for takeoff and landing regardless of wing tank fuel quantity. Its main purpose is to prevent excessive fuel loss through the vents while parked and taxiing. - Doug Dodson Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A,G Baby Dragon IF1 Race Team