Return-Path: Received: from portal.udlp.com ([207.109.1.80]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA27443 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:54:51 -0400 Received: from portal.udlp.com (root@localhost) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id HAA21666 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccmail.udlp.com ([128.254.66.12]) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id HAA21623 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:54:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccMail by ccmail.udlp.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 0014301E; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:46:43 -0500 From: CHRISTOPHER_ZAVATSON@udlp.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:35:28 -0500 Message-ID: <0014301E.C21254@udlp.com> Subject: Fuel tank vents To: Lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Marv, Regarding the two fuel vent options you mentioned; Running the vent back into the fuselage and up the seat back will trap some fuel in the vent line at its lowest point. The fuel system will have to pull a bit of a vacuum to overcome pulling this trapped fuel up hill out to the wing tip back into the tank. Depending on the diameter of the this line and given its length and the vibration it will see, the line may never clear itself of fuel. Unless the line is very small in diameter, the vacuum created will start fuel on its way out to the tip, the fluid column will break down flowing back to the low point while allowing an air bubble to get past the fuel into the tank, for the moment eliminating the vacuum. If vibration were not present the line would most likely clear itself, as soon as, fuel was drawn from the tank. Also, if the diameter is very small it will clear itself. Is this a bad situation? Probably not, but I would prefer using the vents to slightly positively pressurize the tanks instead of potentially applying a small vacuum and forever trapping fuel in the tubing. The concept of venting back to the tank could create a problem depending on the details of the plumbing. If the vent line to the fuel tank is submerged in fuel and the transfer pump is off, the engine will create a vacuum inside the header tank. Fuel will then be drawn into the header tank, continuously, through either the fuel supply line or vent, whichever offers the least resistance. (This assumes the wing tank is still vented otherwise everything locks up) If you route the header vent line to the highest point in the wing tank everything works great until you get fuel in the vent line. Now your looking at the same situation as described in the first paragraph. I have fuel out to the tips and find I rarely have to worry about dumping fuel overboard. With completely topped off tanks, turns on the ground and uncoordinated flight will dump fuel, but that just doesn't occur very often. The vent line is as critical as the fuel supply line in that, if it gets blocked, your fuel supply is useless. I would suggest keeping it simple, inspectable and removable. Chris Zavatson N91CZ