Return-Path: Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:16:48 -0500 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id k.69.1335f52d (14382) for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:25:06 -0500 (EST) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com Message-ID: <69.1335f52d.27f49fc1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:25:05 EST Subject: Re: Learning to fly in a Lancair - Really stupid idea? To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Chris, It sounds like you have thought out most of the ups and downs of purchasing a 235 to complete your flight training. And there have been a few good responses. Here are a few thoughts from another flight instructor, designated pilot examiner, aircraft accident investigator, Lancair builder-- all rolled into one. You can learn to fly this aircraft and get a pilot's certificate in it IF you are willing to invest consiserably more time in it than you would in a Cessna 150 getting a pilot's certificate. The military teaches new pilot candidates in high performance aircraft all the time-- but their system demands you train every day, 10-12 hours a day, studying and flying until you get your wings. It is a "feed from the fire hose" system and most GA guys don't learn to fly that way. If you are flyinig every week then you are only a month away from a private pilot's license now. If you switch to a 235 your instructor is going to have to reteach a whole bunch of stuff because a 235 is different than a C-150. For example, pattern speed for a C-150 is 65 mph -- what is it for a 235? What is the difference in Vx, Vy, best glide etc. What are the procedures for "engine out" in a 235? All of these things you already know or should know for the C-150. You will have to relearn all that stuff for a check ride in the 235 and you are so close to taking one now it would probably be better to take the rest of your training in the C-150, pass your checkride, then do a transition in the 235 with your instructor without the checkride hanging over your head. I'm not saying this is an impossible task, but you will spend more time getting proficient in the 235 in order to pass the checkride. BTW, your flight instructor will probably want to spend a few hours with a 235 owner/pilot getting checked out in it before he starts giving you instruction in it. It would be the wise thing to do. My recommendation would be to finish up in the C150 because that will be the fastest route to the private pilot certificate and then transistion to the 235. The comments about insurance are correct. You will probably be uninsurable for the next 100-200 hours of flying, simply because of your limited flight time/ experience. Jeff Edwards ATP/ CFII/ MEI/ DPE Aircraft Accident Investigator AvSafe.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>