Return-Path: Received: from ddi.digital.net ([198.69.104.2]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA2901 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:49:45 -0400 Received: from john (max-roc2-64.digital.net [204.215.229.64]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA09167 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981018190142.007096b0@mail.digital.net> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:01:42 -0400 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: John Cooper Subject: Fuel floats X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Marv and all-- Thanks for the good suggestions. Right now, I plan to have only a LOW LEVEL sensor and warning light. Since I haven't come up with an automatic system that I am comfortable with, I will be going straight manual control of the xfer pumps. I will do some kind of a test to verify that with both transfer pumps running, I will be unable to structurally damage the header tank. I am thinking of the possibility of a pressure switch to sense the increase in pressure when the xfer pumps are trying to pump into a full tank, but don't know yet. One thing at a time... So I have two options with my low level switch: I can make it so the float hangs down when the tank is dry, in which case I would be presenting an OPEN set of contacts to whatever warning system I chose. Reverse logic IOW. This has the advantage of self-testing for two failure modes: an open wire or a "waterlogged" float. The warning light would be ON with the sightglass showing gas in the tank for either of the above. OTOH, an additional failure mode is introduced by the logic circuitry required to turn a light on with the sensor open. Using this system, a lamp test circuit would be required to verify the system was working. But maybe not...if I were to run the tank "dry" (my sensor will be about 2" above the bottom) each time, then I would have a verification that the system was working at least once per flight. Turning the float around so that it would float up (not down) when the tank was not empty would allow me to connect the light directly to the reed switch. Simpler. But an open wire would not be detected in advance of running the tank dry, although a "waterlogged" float would be. Right now I am kinda partial to the first (reverse-logic) method...but I'm still pondering. Using some 7400 series logic would allow de-bounce and set/reset/monostable options that might be beneficial. I dunno...I'm not really in the mood right now to spend a month designing some kluge . Maybe I'll just take the easy route. Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits...