X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6858735 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 May 2014 03:41:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.64; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Yv4YAX6dS1rMMeWdhgrd/klQEloI+OVKypukBgg+OjtgMm92KcAfeNRCm+wPelW+; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.166.250.211] (helo=[10.71.0.159]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1WhDWV-0002uf-H0 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 May 2014 03:41:15 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Oil filter From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 02:41:14 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <654C245D-468D-4237-B761-D9A55E186BC4@earthlink.net> References: To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940a8a7041dada56ee05dd849867e89f52e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.166.250.211 Interesting idea. I agree the filtering efficiency of a/c oil filters = is appalling. However, after taking the Continental course, it's my = distinct impression that a big part of why our aircraft engines work = today is because they've been tweaked in subtle ways to address the = failures of the last 50 years. In other words we know what we know = because of massive field experience, more than anything else. ...and = Continental (or Lycoming) made the minor changes they made because each = stopped some catastrophic failure mode. I looked around for specs and couldn't find any. I would want to know = some things before I put one in my airplane. like: - what is the oil flow in gallons per minute of an aircraft engine oil = system vs. an automobile? - at that flow rate what is the pressure drop across the oil filter? - how much more oil pressure will I see on the upstream side of that = filter than I would with a inefficient aircraft oil filter? - how does my oil pump and anything connected to it respond to that = pressure? - is there a bypass feature in the filter in case an internal blockage = develops in the filter? If so, at what pressure does it kick in vs. an = aviation filter? - what happens to my flow rate at low rpm? - at startup, how long does it take oil to reach critical locations? Colyn On May 2, 2014, at 11:17 AM, William Rumburg wrote: Hi Jim - I've meant to answer this for a while, but kept putting it off. I've = used a Mobil M1-107 automotive oil filter on my Lycoming IO-320 for over = ten years. Them M1-107's gasket fits the standard Lycoming spin-on = perfectly. It's a premium automotive filter and, although I don't have = emperical evidence, I'm certain it's superior to antiquated 'aviation' = oil filter technology. It's also considerably smaller than the Champion, = which might solve your interference problem. Here are Mobil's claims from their website... = http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Extend= ed_Performance_Oil_Filters.aspx 1) Remove more contaminants than conventional filters using an advanced = synthetic fiber blend filter media 2) Holds and remove three times the dirt versus the leading economy = filter brand 3) Reduces resistance to oil flow while improving filter efficiency 4) Withstands up to nine times the normal system operating pressure Bill Rumburg N403WR (Sonic bOOm) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Nordin To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:17 PM Subject: [LML] Oil filter Lancairians, I have an IO-360 with a spin on filter. The filter sits above the cowl = just a bit. The filter is the Champion CH48108-1. Is there another that = doesn't sit so high to interfere with the cowl? Or do I have to buy a remote? There are other filters but what works? Jim=20 -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html