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From: Kevin Stallard <kevin@arilabs.net>
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Let me answer with a question.

In the section labeled "The Hazzard and Potential Causes"  Where is the dat=
a?

The whole section is anecdotal, and the layman  concludes that when the can=
opy opens that perhaps one of these causes is killing people.


What if, and I emphasize if, none of these are really a factor?

Can't see out your canopy?  Loosen your straps and Sit Up!

Don't have a lot of control authority?  Increase your airspeed (lower the n=
ose or increase the throttle or both).  I don't remember who it was but his=
 canopy was open he was at 110 knots and his controls were mushy.   Really!=
!!!!????   Uuuggg!   The controls can be mushy at 110 with the canopy close=
d for crying out loud.

If the canopy opens, the airplane is flyable and you close your eyes and th=
en you crash.  What was the cause, the canopy or your eyelids?

Causality is a tricky to put your finger on, it is an elusive beast.

Thanks,
Kevin


On May 2, 2014, at 12:52 PM, David Williams <david@fahrencorp.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
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> Perhaps you would be kind enough to point out the =B3erroneous=B2 informa=
tion
> to all of us?
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> David Williams=20
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> On 5/2/14, 10:19 AM, "Kevin Stallard" <kevin@arilabs.net> wrote:
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>> Hi Hamid,
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>> I apologize for leaving that idea with you.  That isn't the intent.
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>> I should have said:
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>> "The idea is that we want people to KNOW whether or not the airplane is
>> flyable.   If it is flyable, then if the canopy opens=8A..".
>>=20
>> What I am trying (perhaps poorly) to communicate is what we have to focu=
s
>> on, "knowing".  Once we really know what is going on, then we can bring
>> forth real solutions that can have consistent outcomes.
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>> Right now, we don't and this report, while it contains accident reports,
>> it also contains erroneous information that then leads to conclusions
>> that are not built on a good foundation.  I really think this stuff has
>> to go.  We shouldn't release this as is.
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>> Thanks
>> Kevin
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>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Hamid Wasti <hwasti@lm50.com> wrote:
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>>> On 5/2/2014 4:27 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote:
>>>> The idea is that we want people to KNOW that the airplane is flyable.
>>>> That if the canopy opens, they still need to (and can) fly the airplan=
e.
>>> You have been complaining that the report portrays suppositions as
>>> facts. And then you are doing exactly the same thing yourself. That
>>> severely undermines your credibility and leads people to not take your
>>> arguments seriously.
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>>> The facts are that so far we are aware of one person, with unknown and
>>> unique training and experience, flying an airplane that is
>>> aerodynamically different than every other Legacy, under unknown
>>> conditions of weight & balance, was able to land with an open canopy.
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>>> You are making a huge and untenable leap of logic extrapolating that
>>> once incident to mean that every Legacy, with its unique aerodynamics,
>>> under every allowable combination of weight & balance, will be flyable
>>> by a proficient pilot with an open canopy.
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>>> Regards,
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>>> Hamid
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