X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 14:52:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6856152 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 May 2014 12:25:27 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.208.4.194; envelope-from=david@fahrencorp.com Received: from WINHEXFEUS1.winus.mail (winhexfeus1.server.lan [10.72.31.11]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lu7ig-1WpQph0NAU-011mYY; Fri, 02 May 2014 12:24:52 -0400 Received: from WINHEXBEUS7.winus.mail (10.71.41.34) by winhexbeus7.winus.mail (10.71.41.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.847.32; Fri, 2 May 2014 18:24:49 +0200 Received: from WINHEXBEUS7.winus.mail ([fe80::cc6a:3316:7b6b:7326]) by winhexbeus7.winus.mail ([fe80::cc6a:3316:7b6b:7326%14]) with mapi id 15.00.0847.030; Fri, 2 May 2014 18:24:49 +0200 From: David Williams X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy White Paper Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Legacy White Paper Thread-Index: AQHPZiJedjnk8v1FcESIdGHzJvhng5ss87CA X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 16:24:48 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [8.39.229.14] x-1and1-spam-score: 0.1/5 x-1and1-spam-level: Low X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:HxeOOMA2c5V+sTnEIRDbA87cfpDyS4C8hmQXEL8cy8l S/Y/JoCdyRYkWMtvGRGjbIEOBESiofR5gmAuNVNJXzu+pLTA2W Qo9AySCSYMPdylwGARW8DIar52j2/U2uXoSklYLKwL2nQFlEIh KSGp0Q48S6WJa1M9b6LuC+hdzf/Qma8f8nzmZa2Bc5nCAc/h0b lYdbbjRxUU9ez+IhzegIyjIxnV5vF2WWmno2HLYVFijoFCM1so R0UKbSLAKEPS6sbmDsvqzsBbw90EYNhXRjWHZduoYl/ZwDf1fX R+D7x6+ToyBqO4wkijwxyYmC6Oo8GcE4Uf/P5YskG7JOdDcVRr D+RVjSVgHr3voUObVcN4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <0E2EA40B18E81A4593E9E6A588A4A6B4@winus.mail> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Kevin, Perhaps you would be kind enough to point out the =B3erroneous=B2 informati= on to all of us? David Williams=20 On 5/2/14, 10:19 AM, "Kevin Stallard" wrote: >Hi Hamid, > >I apologize for leaving that idea with you. That isn't the intent. > >I should have said: > >"The idea is that we want people to KNOW whether or not the airplane is >flyable. If it is flyable, then if the canopy opens=8A..". > >What I am trying (perhaps poorly) to communicate is what we have to focus >on, "knowing". Once we really know what is going on, then we can bring >forth real solutions that can have consistent outcomes. > >Right now, we don't and this report, while it contains accident reports, >it also contains erroneous information that then leads to conclusions >that are not built on a good foundation. I really think this stuff has >to go. We shouldn't release this as is. > >Thanks >Kevin > > =20 > > > >On May 2, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Hamid Wasti wrote: > >> On 5/2/2014 4:27 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote: >>> The idea is that we want people to KNOW that the airplane is flyable. >>>That if the canopy opens, they still need to (and can) fly the airplane. >> You have been complaining that the report portrays suppositions as >>facts. And then you are doing exactly the same thing yourself. That >>severely undermines your credibility and leads people to not take your >>arguments seriously. >>=20 >> The facts are that so far we are aware of one person, with unknown and >>unique training and experience, flying an airplane that is >>aerodynamically different than every other Legacy, under unknown >>conditions of weight & balance, was able to land with an open canopy. >>=20 >> You are making a huge and untenable leap of logic extrapolating that >>once incident to mean that every Legacy, with its unique aerodynamics, >>under every allowable combination of weight & balance, will be flyable >>by a proficient pilot with an open canopy. >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Hamid >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> For archives and unsub >>http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > >-- >For archives and unsub >http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html