Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #69906
From: Nick Long <nick@beaglepup.info>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: VMS1000 pressure gauges on LNC2
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 12:19:37 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Hi Bill,
 
I think you answered the question. The US321 may be a lot better than the original MediaMate, but it is not industry standard.
Its advantage is that its a drop in replacement, which will be what some people want. But I would prefer a solution using an industry standard sensor.
 
Yours,
 
Nick
 
 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:28 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: VMS1000 pressure gauges on LNC2
 
Nick -
 
My approach was to search for a transducer with the same electrical parameters as the MediaMate, for which the VMS1000 fuel and oil pressure indications were designed (i.e. 5VDC excitation and 50mV full-scale output). Unfortunately, that turns out to be a combination rarely used in industry; however, one version of the MSP US300 series has those parameters, which makes it an exact electrical replacement. Furthermore, MSP transducers are modern, high-quality and inexpensive - in contrast with the antiquated, failure-prone and outrageously overpriced MediaMate. I appreciate your efforts toward another solution, but why not go with the US321???
 
Bill Rumburg
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Long
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:46 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: VMS1000 pressure gauges on LNC2
 
Hi Bill,
 
(Bill Rumburg, that is; there are two Bills in the thread)
 
I don’t disagree with anything you said. But the fact that the VMS-1000 DPU could be difficult to keep going in the long term – liable to become toast as you say – makes me reluctant to go for sensors that are specific to it. If my scheme works then I have pressure sensors that might (not guaranteed, but might) work with another display system. At least they will be industry standard and I’m also going to use industry standard connectors, not the spade terminals.
 
If the fuel flow sensor failed, then I would probably ignore it, at least for a while. But without OP and FP displays, you have to take action immediately.
 
Yours,
 
Nick
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:13 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: VMS1000 pressure gauges on LNC2
 
Nick -
 
The VMS-1000 was a state-of-the-art engine indication/fuel management system back in the mid-90's and is still quite respectable. However, it's DPU is comprised of individual electronic devices which are now obsolete; hence, if any one of them is damaged or fails, you may as well consider the entire DPU toast. The possiblity of damage to an individual component is my reason for not experimenting with voltage dividers, etc. in an attempt to make non-standard sensors work. Fortunately, sensors are -for the most part- still available. One insurmountable problem, however, would be replacement of the fuel flow sensor. FloScan went from an 18K to a 6K unit and fuel flow accuracy requires that sensors "K" factor be programmed into the DPU, which is no longer possible for the VMS.
The MediaMate's terminals are numbered 1 thru 4 and function as you've listed; however, terminals 2 and 4 are more correctly identified as - and + 5 VDC excitaton, with terminals 1 and 3 as + and - mV signal. I've also failed to mention that the MediaMate's plug-on 'Hirschmann' terminals are ill-conceived and problem-prone, especially for a mV signal; whereas, the MSP US 300 series all have a permanent, factory-installed connection.
 
Bill
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