X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 07:39:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6853884 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:38:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=farnsworth@charter.net Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140501003818.LWLP6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:38:18 -0400 Received: from windows8Master ([71.90.194.12]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id wQeH1n0030GX28705QeHGt; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:38:17 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=F7QP7ddN c=1 sm=1 a=kEsCkrvepe3iRjOsM60Vlw==:17 a=RciwD_7PrvcA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=BetCY66mmB9yU6BBwG8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=UNOnCp6mD4oA:10 a=kEsCkrvepe3iRjOsM60Vlw==:117 From: "Lynn Farnsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Legacy White Paper X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:38:12 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <008201cf64d5$a2d4a410$e87dec30$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0083_01CF64B4.1BC41580" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: AQGoeycG4uqxuDGSilO2dhMNBs0pLpt4rbiA Content-language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01CF64B4.1BC41580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, =20 Though I do have a Legacy, I don=E2=80=99t have a dog, so to speak, in = this fight. My Legacy=E2=80=99s canopy is hinged at the back and so, it = is either locked closed or gone. However, when I fly solo, I wear a = parachute so I do have an escape plan of last resort. =20 The reason for my commenting was triggered was your statement, = =E2=80=9C, I just wish you would get out of Lancair's entirely. Not only = are you an accident just waiting to happen, you are driving up all our = insurance rates with such arrogant, short-sighted thinking.=E2=80=9D =20 So, My question to you is, what gives you the right to make such a = statement?????? Just because someone doesn=E2=80=99t agree with your = position you think you have the moral high ground to disenfranchise him? = I don=E2=80=99t think so! =20 I race my Legacy. Perhaps you think I should not be allowed to do that = because I might crash and DRIVE YOUR INSURANCE RATES UP??? Right? =20 I have no problem with the objective Valin and others are trying to = achieve but I do have a problem with your thinking what the above quote = indicates. =20 Lynn Farnsworth Super Legacy #235 TSIO-550 Powered Race #44 MMO .6 Mach =20 =20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Ron Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:11 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy White Paper =20 Valin, =20 Your Canopy Safety Issue Paper is outstanding. It should be read by all = Legacy owners and pilots. Your reply to the recent criticisms is equally well written and well = reasoned. For all of those who think that they are so sharp and such fantastic = aviators that their personal, outstanding use of checklists solves most = ills, well, I just wish you would get out of Lancair's entirely. Not = only are you an accident just waiting to happen, you are driving up all = our insurance rates with such arrogant, short-sighted thinking. Is this to harsh? Maybe. But spouting all this nonsense about infallible = checklists really gets me annoyed. How many lives have to be lost before = folks wise up? Of course checklists are wonderful tools and add to a = safe flight, but do they solve all ills? The record of Lancair accidents = suggest otherwise. I suggest we all pledge to more carefully follow our checklists. I also = suggest we actually read this canopy paper and appreciate all the hard = work and talent that it represents. It could save your life. Ron Jones ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01CF64B4.1BC41580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ron,

 

Though I do have a = Legacy, I don=E2=80=99t have a dog, so to speak, in this fight. My = Legacy=E2=80=99s canopy is hinged at the back and so, it is either = locked closed or gone. However, when I fly solo, I wear a parachute so I = do have an escape plan of last resort.

 

The reason for my = commenting was triggered was your statement, =E2=80=9C, I just = wish you would get out of Lancair's entirely. Not only are you an = accident just waiting to happen, you are driving up all our insurance = rates with such arrogant, short-sighted = thinking.=E2=80=9D

 

So, My = question to you is, what gives you the right to make such a = statement?????? =C2=A0Just because someone doesn=E2=80=99t agree with = your position you think you have the moral high ground to disenfranchise = him? I don=E2=80=99t think so!

 

I race my = Legacy. Perhaps you think I should not be allowed to do that because I = might crash and DRIVE YOUR INSURANCE RATES UP??? Right?

 

I have no = problem with the objective Valin and others are trying to achieve but I = do have a problem with your thinking what the above quote = indicates.

 

Lynn Farnsworth

Super Legacy #235

TSIO-550 Powered

Race #44

MMO .6 = Mach

 

 

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Ron Jones
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:11 = PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Legacy White Paper

 

Valin,

 

Your Canopy Safety Issue Paper is outstanding. It = should be read by all Legacy owners and = pilots.



Your reply to the recent criticisms is equally well = written and well reasoned.



For all of those who think that they are so sharp and = such fantastic aviators that their personal, outstanding use of = checklists solves most ills, well, I just wish you would get out of = Lancair's entirely. Not only are you an accident just waiting to happen, = you are driving up all our insurance rates with such arrogant, = short-sighted thinking.



Is this to harsh? Maybe. But spouting all this = nonsense about infallible checklists really gets me annoyed. How many = lives have to be lost before folks wise up? Of course checklists are = wonderful tools and add to a safe flight, but do they solve all ills? = The record of Lancair accidents suggest = otherwise.



I suggest we all pledge to more carefully follow our = checklists. I also suggest we actually read this canopy paper and = appreciate all the hard work and talent that it represents. It could = save your life.



Ron = Jones


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