X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 14:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm49-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.114.251] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6848462 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:46:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.114.251; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm49.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2014 01:45:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.222] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2014 01:45:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2014 01:45:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 804574.32645.bm@omp1031.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83762 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Apr 2014 01:45:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: sjYLwlEVM1m1iE1jp7Ldme_ahsINrTLdtHrRrmAKUm_AkVR oYEChOuV3CqQPd1Km2Utm5meDXeg3zU3PlhaTewhNKXFJVvWrj1_B4JKLJnP synZO5NCVr6Ed7Vk0LzH5kGaVGXjsn1WDjEmbkdUEpPiUUxBiX.5HAKFihEo L7DR.ImX9PrWH8fG3gQg8TT5iyAM6gsVvn9bwSnmZeRj4y2NJalbDzZw8NN9 fLovxIoGZfgV0aOF6uNF6BC0UoUMkZuaOC9T3snqMV9V_I6vIsbozn9.6jRO lD5hjXSMCpFjP0gf67xX.tKSSDcCMinOs0r4.AFw3ygwBf1CGkRtRd8_MVyN POwR4PUQtwS06Q1NaqQIPfZo2RZbHBIkxhrhEn_rCfKaSY3gNSiWQUSSkLaN lnEZaIVaDLANFy3jU828FrjFTfZtsw7ipaJEdsJKyNIYxGVtoReThGpF1k3t wcZlpAxrwNFw025tmBNvamG2DeE9y5fkREntAaMvv4UiPvDR3hNE265bMnVE gTsPAHlLj5.mXraBFJin8Zg8OpFdiKDf3fLIma.vZkM6Di7oX8KXwTZ8gEu8 FXrPVkctGnR8JY2UdM5xFB1IOcN279gcZLYP5cCAzWTKz Received: from [172.14.16.72] by web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:45:50 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,CgpXb2xmZ2FuZwo8PFlvdSBzdXJlIGJhc2UgYSBsb3Qgb2YgY29uY2x1c2lvbnMgb24gb25lIHBob3RvLj4.CgpJIGNvbWUgdG8gbXkgY29uY2x1c2lvbiBhYm91dCB0aGUgcGhvdG8gYmFzZWQgb24geW91ciBwb3N0cwp0byB0aGUgTE1MIGFuZCB0aG9zZSBieSBMb3JuIHJlZ2FyZGluZyB0aGUgaW5jaWRlbnQuIFBsZWFzZSBjb3JyZWN0IGFueSBlcnJvcnMuCgkxLiBMb3JuIGRlc2NyaWJlcyBhIGhlY3RpYyBJRlIgYXBwcm9hY2ggd2l0aAp0dXJidWxlbmNlIGFuZCBodWdlIGNyYWIgYW5nbGVzLsKgIEhlCnMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.185.657 X-Original-Message-ID: <1398563150.81232.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Zavatson Reply-To: Chris Zavatson Subject: Gear Down...INOP X-Original-To: LML posts , Kevin Stallard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="537826103-392048390-1398563150=:81232" --537826103-392048390-1398563150=:81232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0AWolfgang=0A<>=0A=0A= I come to my conclusion about the photo based on your posts=0Ato the LML an= d those by Lorn regarding the incident. Please correct any errors.=0A=091. = Lorn describes a hectic IFR approach with=0Aturbulence and huge crab angles= .=C2=A0 He=0Astated that upon selecting gear down he did not notice that bo= th switches were=0Aopen (not sure how he was able to monitor the switches),= or didn=E2=80=99t notice the=0Alack of three green.=0A=092. If both pressu= re switches were indeed open, the=0Alow side pressure gauge would read 500+= and the high side 1200+ psi.=C2=A0 Clearly they do not. =0A=093. Furthermo= re, had the above assumption been true=0Aand both sides were pressurized, t= he gear would have remained completely stowed=0Ain the wheel wells.=0A=094.= If, as you state, the gear was indeed pushed up=0Aupon landing then it was= obviously not stowed but partially deployed.=C2=A0 This means the pressure= switches were not=0Aboth open and the gear did start on its way down.=C2= =A0 The pressure pulse stopped the pump and your=0Amodule would not have he= lped=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Awww.N91CZ.net --537826103-392048390-1398563150=:81232 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wolfgang=
<<You sure bas= e a lot of conclusions on one photo.>>

I come to my conclusion about = the photo based on your posts=0Ato the LML and those by Lorn regarding the = incident. Please correct any errors.
  1. Lorn describes a hectic IFR approach with=0Aturbulence and huge c= rab angles.  He=0Astated tha= t upon selecting gear down he did not notice that both switches were=0Aopen= (not sure how he was able to monitor the switches), or didn=E2=80=99t noti= ce the=0Alack of three green.
  2. If both pressure switches were indeed open, the= =0Alow side pressure gauge would read 500+ and the high side 1200+ psi.  Clearly they do not.
  3. Furthermore= , had the above assumption been true=0Aand both sides were pressurized, the= gear would have remained completely stowed=0Ain the wheel wells.
  4. If, as you s= tate, the gear was indeed pushed up=0Aupon landing then it was obviously no= t stowed but partially deployed.  <= /span>This means the pressure switches were not=0Aboth open and the gear di= d start on its way down.  Th= e pressure pulse stopped the pump and your=0Amodule would not have helped
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