X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 10:22:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f178.google.com ([209.85.160.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6805222 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:49:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.178; envelope-from=alan@tstar.net Received: by mail-yk0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 79so4658287ykr.37 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=W7FSkDfEMl6pMKXGNQ1At3fe8NbWoQ2/cg/JZwHNFxI=; b=DaU2mzsGsxfhgmy1zjzeBjNpbogbZ80NknuE8OJ5//gZIKdYFHARqVpIrCzLwLfAAj AtyOFxSWXAAf2Us+A1L9q42kEy4zSfoFbXGDioG4wxYSG7allYuyXLF6YTSGnknLu1Pq cfRIA/hxFcy4T3Ozu7Zd0d0N6/yywMCALRvVHIGP/LT0ehhsSfQcX9Ofwz9NLxGJhVyJ zrC7XRO/nNorRoxSaaNuoubQ5p86yg5rqMOlF48Se/axlQizfR9cv6Q/5a+nEjWj7/MG yhGlQYIDbiOrxcCWyglwdPHPRCcRFy1B9yl5L9cAEWv1eNrZOebczXobahcnsYi6WR8v mTWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkOQbcCIoCNryUWWztNKmeFsWQfcNw7mklDAcDHkThGo22rUkz6y2zM1m7ELpuLBZT3IiIJ X-Received: by 10.236.110.77 with SMTP id t53mr20292764yhg.78.1396100938625; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from NewPC ([108.60.227.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o65sm5866513yhb.11.2014.03.29.06.47.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alan R. Crawford" X-Original-To: Subject: Formation Flying X-Original-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:46:52 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <003a01cf4b55$841c1510$8c543f30$@tstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF4B2B.9B51A5D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac9LUhGD2zGdn+QsTbqsdTQWZgCTkQ== Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF4B2B.9B51A5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed . just catching up on messages . I have flown with RV's up to Thunder Mustangs .. The important thing is that everyone in the gaggle experienced with formation flying. Yes, you got to start somewhere - that is where an instructor is nice. If not - know who you are flying with . if someone is weak .. You know who to watch .. As for as wake turbulence . the only problem I have had is with the Mustang in extended trail .. But with altitude . you can recover .. Haha . as far as approach . use spacing (extend if necessary) and fly minimum of 120kts until landing is assured. I was landing at Hobby a couple of months ago and was land 12L as company (SWA 737-700) was landing 12R. I got into their wake and was rolled almost upside down before I recovered . I was at 120 kts and the recovery was sluggish to say the least. I have landed 12L under the same conditions on many occasions and this was an eye opener .. I have always flown with wake turbulence in mind (high and offset) but this got my attention . I tried to see if there is any interest in a Legacy Formation Clinic on this forum with only one or two responses . Would still like to see one if there is any interest??? Lastly, off the subject - I am having the 3rd Annual Hill Country Air Race on the 26th of April at Llano (KAQO) if you or if anyone else Is interested . come out and play .. Link will be up in a day or two!!!!!!!! Blue Skies Alan Race 21 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF4B2B.9B51A5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ed … = just catching up on messages …

I have flown with RV’s up to Thunder Mustangs = …. The important thing is that everyone in the gaggle experienced = with formation flying.  Yes, you got to start somewhere – = that is where an instructor is nice.  If not -  know who you = are flying with … if someone is weak …. You know who to = watch ..

 

As for as wake turbulence … the only problem I = have had is with the Mustang in extended trail …. But with = altitude … you can recover …. Haha … as far as = approach … use spacing (extend if necessary) and fly minimum of = 120kts until landing is assured.  I was landing at Hobby a couple = of months ago and was land 12L as company (SWA 737-700) was landing = 12R.  I got into their wake and was rolled almost upside down = before I recovered … I was at 120 kts and the recovery was = sluggish to say the least.  I have landed 12L under the same = conditions on many occasions and this was an eye opener …. I have = always flown with wake turbulence in mind (high and offset) but this got = my attention …

 

I tried to = see if there is any interest in a Legacy Formation Clinic on this forum = with only one or two responses … Would still like to see one if = there is any interest???

 

Lastly, off = the subject - I am having the 3rd Annual Hill Country Air = Race on the 26th of April at Llano (KAQO) if you or if anyone = else Is interested … come out and play …. Link will be up in = a day or two!!!!!!!!

 

Blue Skies =

Alan

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