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[173.172.120.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qe2sm81059326obc.1.2014.01.05.07.50.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 07:50:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Wing support for ES when jacking the main landing gear References: From: Mark Steitle Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5BB45402-182C-48F4-889D-9DD79C0E46D6 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <593E8E56-1946-443E-B43E-2798FE795ED2@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 09:50:20 -0600 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-5BB45402-182C-48F4-889D-9DD79C0E46D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, If there's a sporting goods store where you live, they ought to be able to s= ell you some lead shot. Otherwise, you could order some over the internet. Mark Sent from my iPad > On Jan 4, 2014, at 12:59 PM, George Wehrung wrote: >=20 > I guess I could empty out a few shotgun shells=E2=80=A6 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 4, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: >>=20 >> I used lead shot in resin, covered with 2-bid. >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >>>=20 >>> Yeah that's a good point now that I have the wheel pants off. What did y= ou use to Balster will pan with? Did you use lead weights? >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:42, Mark Steitle wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> George, >>>>=20 >>>> I haven't experienced a shimmy incident ever since I balanced my front w= heel pant. If you haven't done that, I would highly recommend doing that, e= ven if you do shim the gear legs. >>>>=20 >>>> Mark >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Edwards wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Right under the main spar! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:23 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> All, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Got a pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front wheel fairing= s screws. Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could hear a rubbin= g sound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not backing. So n= ow its time to jack up the main gear and see whats going on. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I tried to search the archives to see how best to support the wings. = No luck. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I am going to purchase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a t= ime using the Lancair adapter. Then put a saw horse with carpet and foam to= hold the wing while I check the main gear for play in the legs. I suspect I= may need shims or be having wheel bearing problems. =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I remember reading but I don=E2=80=99t recall where to put the suppor= t under the wing. Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t have jackpoints. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any advice? Thank you >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> George >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Posted for Clark Baker : >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> > Hi Colyn, >>>>>>> > I played around with the power supplies and just ended up using a r= esistor. >>>>>>> > Low tech and I'm the last person to give advice in this area, but i= t was a >>>>>>> > fun project, it works well, and I learned something. Sounds like >>>>>>> > homebuilding! >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> > Notice my engineering design process for the heat sinking. I start= ed it, >>>>>>> > but quickly got way over my head. So, just ended up doing actual t= esting >>>>>>> > of the thermal properties. 0.35 amps and 0.70 amps (apprx) for th= e green >>>>>>> > and red, respectively and SUPER bright (did the runway test agains= t a >>>>>>> > Whelen certified setup and various long distances and perceived br= ightness) >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >FWIW (not much) >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Colyn Case wrote: >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >> I'm interested in what you used for filters too Pete. >>>>>>> >> ...for my home made de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies= . >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thanks for the clue, Pete! Yes, all in one box, but I will re-vi= sit the >>>>>>> >> wiring instructions for the LED lights to make sure what I did wa= s kosher. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> What filters did you use? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thanks! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gordon >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >> From: pete@leapfrogventures.com [mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com= ] >>>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:13 AM >>>>>>> >> To: Gordon Porter; lml@lancaironline.net; randylsnarr@yahoo.com >>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I had similar issues with LED position lights that I had built my= self. >>>>>>> >> Noise only on the lower frequencies. It turned out the problem w= as on the >>>>>>> >> lines between the LED power supply and the LEDs. Because of this= adding >>>>>>> >> filters to the power supply lines to the lights did nothing. I e= nded up >>>>>>> >> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and the probl= em went >>>>>>> >> away. This was easy because mine was a home-made setup. I'm gue= ssing your >>>>>>> >> power supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed package. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Pete >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com] >>>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM >>>>>>> >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi Randy. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I have been tracking down a similar issue. Thought I had it isol= ated to >>>>>>> >> one >>>>>>> >> or both of my AFS EFIS'. Installed a pair of capacitance filters= at the >>>>>>> >> advice of Aerotronics... jury still out. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> My reception issue was "like breaking squelch" but only happened o= n the low >>>>>>> >> end freqs - 118-121 or so, on both radios, each on separate anten= nae. Very >>>>>>> >> consistent and repeatable. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I have Aeroleds for landing and both wing tip recognition lights.= ..not the >>>>>>> >> strobes, just wing tip recognition lights. Aerosun, I think the m= odel is. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> What freqs are you having issues on?? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Very frustrating. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gordon >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ES N144GP >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gordon H. Porter >>>>>>> >> Managing Partner >>>>>>> >> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP >>>>>>> >> Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 800-290-2632 717-757-4908 fax 717-843-0180 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. M= ember >>>>>>> >> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge Investmen= t Research >>>>>>> >> Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are= offered >>>>>>> >> by >>>>>>> >> Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the Camb= ridge >>>>>>> >> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entities. >>>>>>> >> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored. Please c= all our >>>>>>> >> office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at 800-756-= 8115 , >>>>>>> >> for >>>>>>> >> all buy/sell orders. Please be advised that communications regar= ding >>>>>>> >> trades >>>>>>> >> in your account are for informational purposes only. You should c= ontinue >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> rely on confirmations and statements received from the >>>>>>> >> custodian(s) of your assets. The text of this communication is >>>>>>> >> confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended recip= ient is >>>>>>> >> prohibited. Any person who receives this communication in error i= s >>>>>>> >> requested to immediately destroy the text of this communication w= ithout >>>>>>> >> copying or further dissemination. Your cooperation is appreciate= d. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >> From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com] >>>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05 AM >>>>>>> >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Joe , do you get any interference in your radios with these light= s? >>>>>>> >> I installed similar lights a year ago and it causes reception iss= ues at >>>>>>> >> times on some frequencies. Curios if you experienced the same is= sue... >>>>>>> >> I would also be interested if anyone else has any suggestions on h= ow to >>>>>>> >> resolve this.. >>>>>>> >> Thx! >>>>>>> >> Randy Snarr >>>>>>> >> 235/320 >>>>>>> >> N694RS >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> For archives and unsub >>>>>>> >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> For archives and unsub >>>>>>> >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> > --=20 >>>>>>> > Clark Baker >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> > mobile: +44 7557 804 630 >>>>>>> >=20 >>>>>>> > bakercdb@gmail.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/Li= st.html >=20 --Apple-Mail-5BB45402-182C-48F4-889D-9DD79C0E46D6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
George,

If th= ere's a sporting goods store where you live, they ought to be able to sell y= ou some lead shot.  Otherwise, you could order some over the internet.<= /div>

Mark

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4= , 2014, at 12:59 PM, George Wehrung <gw5@me= .com> wrote:

I guess I= could empty out a few shotgun shells=E2=80=A6


<= div>On Jan 4, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:

I used lead shot= in resin, covered with 2-bid.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan= 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM, George Wehrung <gw5@= me.com> wrote:

Yeah that's a= good point now that I have the wheel pants off. What did you use to Balster= will pan with? Did you use lead weights?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:42, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:

George,

I haven't experienced a shimmy inc= ident ever since I balanced my front wheel pant.  If you haven't done t= hat, I would highly recommend doing that, even if you do shim the gear legs.=

Mark


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Edwards <vtailjeff@aol.com> wrote:

Right under the main spar!

Sent from my iPad

O= n Jan 1, 2014, at 8:23 AM, George Wehrung <= gw5@me.com> wrote:

All,
Got a pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front whee= l fairings screws.  Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could= hear a rubbing sound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not b= acking.  So now its time to jack up the main gear and see whats going o= n.

I tried to search the archives to see how best t= o support the wings.  No luck.

I am going to p= urchase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a time using the Lancair a= dapter.  Then put a saw horse with carpet and foam to hold the wing whi= le I check the main gear for play in the legs.  I suspect I may need sh= ims or be having wheel bearing problems.  

I r= emember reading but I don=E2=80=99t recall where to put the support under th= e wing.  Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t have jackpoints.

=
Any advice?  Thank you

George
=


On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote:


Posted for Clark B= aker <bakercdb@gmail.com>:
> Hi Colyn,
> I played around with the power supplies and just ended up usi= ng a resistor.
> Low tech and I'm the last person to give advice in this area, but it was a
> fun project, it works well, and I learned so= mething.  Sounds like
> homebuilding!
>
> Notice my engineering design process for the heat sinking. I started it,
= > but quickly got way over my head.  So, just ended up doing actual testing
> of the thermal properties.  0.35 amps and 0= .70 amps (apprx) for the green
> and red, respectively and SUPER bright (did the runway test against a
> Whelen certified setup and var= ious long distances and perceived brightness)
>
>FWIW (not much)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Co= lyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.= net> wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in what you used for filters too Pete.
>> ...for my home= made de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies.
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter= wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the clue, Pete!  Yes, all in one box, but I will re-visit the
>> wiring instructions for t= he LED lights to make sure what I did was kosher.
>>
>> What filters did you use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>= ;> Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = pete@leapfrogventures.com [= mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26= , 2013 12:13 AM
>> To: Gordon Porter; l= ml@lancaironline.net; randylsna= rr@yahoo.com
>> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
>> I had similar issues with LED positio= n lights that I had built myself.
>> Noise only on the lower frequencies.  It turned out the problem was on the
>> lin= es between the LED power supply and the LEDs.  Because of this adding
>> filters to the power supply lines to the lights did nothi= ng.  I ended up
>> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and the problem went
>> away.  This was= easy because mine was a home-made setup.  I'm guessing your
>> power supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed packa= ge.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com]
>> Sen= t: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
&g= t;> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
&g= t;> Hi Randy.
>>
>> I have been tracking down a similar issue.  Thought I had it isolate= d to
>> one
>> or both of my AFS EFIS'.  Installed a pair of capacitance filters at the
>>= advice of Aerotronics... jury still out.
>>
>> My reception issue was "like breaking squelch" but only happened on the low
= >> end freqs - 118-121 or so, on both radios, each on separate antennae.  Very
>> consistent and repeatable.
>>=
>> I have Aeroleds for landing and both wing tip recognition lights...not the
>> strobes, just wing tip recognition lights. = ; Aerosun, I think the model is.
>>
>> What freqs are you having issues on??
>>
>> Very frustrating.
>= >
>> Gordon
>>
>> ES N144GP
>>
>>
>> Gordon H. Porter
>> Mana= ging Partner
>> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP
>> Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.
>>
>= ;> 800-290-2632  717-757-4908  fax 717-843-0180
>>
>> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com
>>
>> Securiti= es offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. Member
>> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambr= idge Investment Research
>> Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are offered
>> by
>> Trus= ted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the Cambridge
>> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entitie= s.
>> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored.  Please call our
>> office, or Cambridge Investm= ent Research trading desk at 800-756-8115 ,
>> for
>> all buy/sell orders.  Please be advised that communications regard= ing
>> trades
>> in your account are for informational purposes only.  You should continue
>> to
>> rel= y on confirmations and statements received from the
>> custodian(s) of your assets.  The text of this communication is>> confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended recipient is
>> prohibited.  Any person who receives this= communication in error is
>> requested to immediately destroy the text of this communication without
>> copying or further dissem= ination.  Your cooperation is appreciated.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> = From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com]
= >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
>> Subject: Re: [LML= ] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
>> Joe , do you get any interference in y= our radios with these lights?
>> I installed similar lights a year ago and it causes reception issues at
>> times on some frequen= cies.  Curios if you experienced the same issue...
>> I would also be interested if anyone else has any suggestions on how to
>= ;> resolve this..
>> Thx!
>> Randy Snarr
>> 235/320
>> N694RS
>>
>>
>>
>>>> --
>> For archives and unsub
>> http://mail= .lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
>>
>>
>= ;> --
>> For archives and unsub
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>>
>
> <= br>>
> --
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>
> mobile: +44 7557 804 630
>
> bake= rcdb@gmail.com

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