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[173.172.120.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r6sm74229676obi.14.2014.01.03.17.59.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:59:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Wing support for ES when jacking the main landing gear References: From: Mark Steitle Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53F4E121-830B-494E-8AEF-6E317311A360 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:59:07 -0600 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-53F4E121-830B-494E-8AEF-6E317311A360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used lead shot in resin, covered with 2-bid. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >=20 > Yeah that's a good point now that I have the wheel pants off. What did you= use to Balster will pan with? Did you use lead weights? >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:42, Mark Steitle wrote: >>=20 >> George, >>=20 >> I haven't experienced a shimmy incident ever since I balanced my front wh= eel pant. If you haven't done that, I would highly recommend doing that, ev= en if you do shim the gear legs. >>=20 >> Mark >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Edwards wrote: >>>=20 >>> Right under the main spar! >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPad >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:23 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> All, >>>>=20 >>>> Got a pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front wheel fairings s= crews. Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could hear a rubbing s= ound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not backing. So now i= ts time to jack up the main gear and see whats going on. >>>>=20 >>>> I tried to search the archives to see how best to support the wings. N= o luck. >>>>=20 >>>> I am going to purchase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a tim= e using the Lancair adapter. Then put a saw horse with carpet and foam to h= old the wing while I check the main gear for play in the legs. I suspect I m= ay need shims or be having wheel bearing problems. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> I remember reading but I don=E2=80=99t recall where to put the support u= nder the wing. Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t have jackpoints. >>>>=20 >>>> Any advice? Thank you >>>>=20 >>>> George >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Posted for Clark Baker : >>>>>=20 >>>>> > Hi Colyn, >>>>> > I played around with the power supplies and just ended up using a re= sistor. >>>>> > Low tech and I'm the last person to give advice in this area, but it= was a >>>>> > fun project, it works well, and I learned something. Sounds like >>>>> > homebuilding! >>>>> >=20 >>>>> > Notice my engineering design process for the heat sinking. I started= it, >>>>> > but quickly got way over my head. So, just ended up doing actual te= sting >>>>> > of the thermal properties. 0.35 amps and 0.70 amps (apprx) for the g= reen >>>>> > and red, respectively and SUPER bright (did the runway test against a= >>>>> > Whelen certified setup and various long distances and perceived brig= htness) >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >FWIW (not much) >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >=20 >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Colyn Case wrote: >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >> I'm interested in what you used for filters too Pete. >>>>> >> ...for my home made de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks for the clue, Pete! Yes, all in one box, but I will re-visi= t the >>>>> >> wiring instructions for the LED lights to make sure what I did was k= osher. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> What filters did you use? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gordon >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: pete@leapfrogventures.com [mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com] >>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:13 AM >>>>> >> To: Gordon Porter; lml@lancaironline.net; randylsnarr@yahoo.com >>>>> >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I had similar issues with LED position lights that I had built myse= lf. >>>>> >> Noise only on the lower frequencies. It turned out the problem was= on the >>>>> >> lines between the LED power supply and the LEDs. Because of this a= dding >>>>> >> filters to the power supply lines to the lights did nothing. I end= ed up >>>>> >> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and the problem= went >>>>> >> away. This was easy because mine was a home-made setup. I'm guess= ing your >>>>> >> power supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed package. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Pete >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com] >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM >>>>> >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>>>> >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Randy. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have been tracking down a similar issue. Thought I had it isolat= ed to >>>>> >> one >>>>> >> or both of my AFS EFIS'. Installed a pair of capacitance filters a= t the >>>>> >> advice of Aerotronics... jury still out. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> My reception issue was "like breaking squelch" but only happened on= the low >>>>> >> end freqs - 118-121 or so, on both radios, each on separate antenna= e. Very >>>>> >> consistent and repeatable. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have Aeroleds for landing and both wing tip recognition lights...= not the >>>>> >> strobes, just wing tip recognition lights. Aerosun, I think the mo= del is. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> What freqs are you having issues on?? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Very frustrating. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gordon >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ES N144GP >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gordon H. Porter >>>>> >> Managing Partner >>>>> >> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP >>>>> >> Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 800-290-2632 717-757-4908 fax 717-843-0180 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. Mem= ber >>>>> >> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge Investment R= esearch >>>>> >> Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are o= ffered >>>>> >> by >>>>> >> Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the Cambri= dge >>>>> >> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entities. >>>>> >> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored. Please ca= ll our >>>>> >> office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at 800-756-81= 15 , >>>>> >> for >>>>> >> all buy/sell orders. Please be advised that communications regardi= ng >>>>> >> trades >>>>> >> in your account are for informational purposes only. You should co= ntinue >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> rely on confirmations and statements received from the >>>>> >> custodian(s) of your assets. The text of this communication is >>>>> >> confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended recipie= nt is >>>>> >> prohibited. Any person who receives this communication in error is= >>>>> >> requested to immediately destroy the text of this communication wit= hout >>>>> >> copying or further dissemination. Your cooperation is appreciated.= >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com] >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05 AM >>>>> >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Joe , do you get any interference in your radios with these lights?= >>>>> >> I installed similar lights a year ago and it causes reception issue= s at >>>>> >> times on some frequencies. Curios if you experienced the same issu= e... >>>>> >> I would also be interested if anyone else has any suggestions on ho= w to >>>>> >> resolve this.. >>>>> >> Thx! >>>>> >> Randy Snarr >>>>> >> 235/320 >>>>> >> N694RS >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> For archives and unsub >>>>> >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> For archives and unsub >>>>> >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >>>>> >> >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >=20 >>>>> >=20 >>>>> > --=20 >>>>> > Clark Baker >>>>> >=20 >>>>> > mobile: +44 7557 804 630 >>>>> >=20 >>>>> > bakercdb@gmail.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List= .html >>>>=20 --Apple-Mail-53F4E121-830B-494E-8AEF-6E317311A360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I used lead shot in resin, covered wit= h 2-bid.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM,= George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:<= br>
Yeah that's a good point now t= hat I have the wheel pants off. What did you use to Balster will pan with? D= id you use lead weights?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2= 014, at 8:42, Mark Steitle <msteitl= e@gmail.com> wrote:

Geo= rge,

I haven't experienced a shimmy incident ever s= ince I balanced my front wheel pant.  If you haven't done that, I would= highly recommend doing that, even if you do shim the gear legs.
<= br>
Mark


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1= , 2014, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Edwards <vt= ailjeff@aol.com> wrote:

<= meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Right under the main spar!

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1,= 2014, at 8:23 AM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.c= om> wrote:

All,
Got a pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front wheel f= airings screws.  Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could he= ar a rubbing sound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not bac= king.  So now its time to jack up the main gear and see whats going on.=

I tried to search the archives to see how best to s= upport the wings.  No luck.

I am going to purc= hase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a time using the Lancair ada= pter.  Then put a saw horse with carpet and foam to hold the wing while= I check the main gear for play in the legs.  I suspect I may need shim= s or be having wheel bearing problems.  

I rem= ember reading but I don=E2=80=99t recall where to put the support under the w= ing.  Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t have jackpoints.

Any advice?  Thank you

George


On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote:


Posted for Clark Bake= r <bakercdb@gmail.com>:
<= br>> Hi Colyn,
> I played around with the power supplies and just ended up usi= ng a resistor.
> Low tech and I'm the last person to give advice in this area, but it was a
> fun project, it works well, and I learned so= mething.  Sounds like
> homebuilding!
>
> Notice my engineering design process for the heat sinking. I started it,
= > but quickly got way over my head.  So, just ended up doing actual testing
> of the thermal properties.  0.35 amps and 0= .70 amps (apprx) for the green
> and red, respectively and SUPER bright (did the runway test against a
> Whelen certified setup and var= ious long distances and perceived brightness)
>
>FWIW (not much)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Co= lyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.= net> wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in what you used for filters too Pete.
>> ...for my home= made de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies.
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter= wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the clue, Pete!  Yes, all in one box, but I will re-visit the
>> wiring instructions for t= he LED lights to make sure what I did was kosher.
>>
>> What filters did you use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>= ;> Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = pete@leapfrogventures.com [= mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26= , 2013 12:13 AM
>> To: Gordon Porter; l= ml@lancaironline.net; randylsna= rr@yahoo.com
>> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
>> I had similar issues with LED positio= n lights that I had built myself.
>> Noise only on the lower frequencies.  It turned out the problem was on the
>> lin= es between the LED power supply and the LEDs.  Because of this adding
>> filters to the power supply lines to the lights did nothi= ng.  I ended up
>> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and the problem went
>> away.  This was= easy because mine was a home-made setup.  I'm guessing your
>> power supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed packa= ge.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com]
>> Sen= t: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
&g= t;> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
&g= t;> Hi Randy.
>>
>> I have been tracking down a similar issue.  Thought I had it isolate= d to
>> one
>> or both of my AFS EFIS'.  Installed a pair of capacitance filters at the
>>= advice of Aerotronics... jury still out.
>>
>> My reception issue was "like breaking squelch" but only happened on the low
= >> end freqs - 118-121 or so, on both radios, each on separate antennae.  Very
>> consistent and repeatable.
>>=
>> I have Aeroleds for landing and both wing tip recognition lights...not the
>> strobes, just wing tip recognition lights. = ; Aerosun, I think the model is.
>>
>> What freqs are you having issues on??
>>
>> Very frustrating.
>= >
>> Gordon
>>
>> ES N144GP
>>
>>
>> Gordon H. Porter
>> Mana= ging Partner
>> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP
>> Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.
>>
>= ;> 800-290-2632  717-757-4908  fax 717-843-0180
>>
>> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com
>>
>> Securiti= es offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. Member
>> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambr= idge Investment Research
>> Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are offered
>> by
>> Trus= ted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the Cambridge
>> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entitie= s.
>> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored.  Please call our
>> office, or Cambridge Investm= ent Research trading desk at 800-756-8115 ,
>> for
>> all buy/sell orders.  Please be advised that communications regard= ing
>> trades
>> in your account are for informational purposes only.  You should continue
>> to
>> rel= y on confirmations and statements received from the
>> custodian(s) of your assets.  The text of this communication is>> confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended recipient is
>> prohibited.  Any person who receives this= communication in error is
>> requested to immediately destroy the text of this communication without
>> copying or further dissem= ination.  Your cooperation is appreciated.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> = From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com]
= >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
>> Subject: Re: [LML= ] Re: Landing light recommendation
>>
>> Joe , do you get any interference in y= our radios with these lights?
>> I installed similar lights a year ago and it causes reception issues at
>> times on some frequen= cies.  Curios if you experienced the same issue...
>> I would also be interested if anyone else has any suggestions on how to
>= ;> resolve this..
>> Thx!
>> Randy Snarr
>> 235/320
>> N694RS
>>
>>
>>
>>>> --
>> For archives and unsub
>> http://mail= .lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
>>
>>
>= ;> --
>> For archives and unsub
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>>
>
> <= br>>
> --
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>
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>
> bake= rcdb@gmail.com

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